• Mass Effect 3 lessons 'will be built into our future games'
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[QUOTE=RichyZ;40562792]its kinda ironic how you have jetstream sam as your avatar[/QUOTE] hey m8 metal gear rising gets a free pass on anime sword stuff cause it was awesome
[QUOTE=Jackald;40562281] Like when Shepard brings everyone on the mission instead of 2 people.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEkBkSnT-tU[/media]
Sick, more multicolor endings and glorified hordemodes to compensate for multiplayer, can't wait!
[QUOTE=27X;40560209]Yeah, and what they didn't learn is to promote Mac Walters to a shiny top level office at edmonton so that he's not in the writer's department anymore.[/QUOTE] The only place he should have been promoted to is the sun on a rocket.
[QUOTE=Sadim;40561370]Great? Does that mean they'll stop shoving someones sexual preference in my face and flaunting it about? "HEY! GAY PEOPLE EXIST. HEY. HEEEY. WE'RE SO PROGRESSIVE AS A COMPANY."[/QUOTE] It is true, especially about Taylor in mass effect 3 who seems to shove it in the players face every time she hears or sees a woman
[QUOTE=EpicWolf;40563601]Sick, more multicolor endings and glorified hordemodes to compensate for multiplayer, can't wait![/QUOTE] For a first attempt it was pretty decent. I played it for far longer than I played the singleplayer. [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=bigmansham;40563735]It is true, especially about Taylor in mass effect 3 who seems to shove it in the players face every time hears or sees a woman[/QUOTE] It's actually more likely that LGBT sexuality is becoming more culturally accepted so more people are interested in writing characters that aren't heterosexual. The vast, vast majority of interactions in all three games are still heterosexual.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40563784] It's actually more likely that LGBT sexuality is becoming more culturally accepted so more people are interested in writing characters that aren't heterosexual. The vast, vast majority of interactions in all three games are still heterosexual.[/QUOTE] Well Cortez is all right because he's written to be a normal guy who is gay, but Taylor seems to get sexually excited every time she hears a woman's voice, makes it seem like she was written to appeal to 14 year olds.
[quote]"One thing that really stood out for us is that we underestimated how attached people would become to the characters"[/quote] I refuse to believe that's a lesson learned just now. From the start ME packed a mini-dating-simulator, ME2 had huge character focus and people friggin ate up the Shadowbroker dossiers. Did they pull a 180° when ME2 was criticized for being too much about characters and not enough about the actual plot or what?
Love how they skipped around the issue of their nonsensical endings and focused on how they delivered a pure fan service DLC.
it still amazes me just how awful mass effect 3 was
tbh they spent two games dumbing the franchise down to appeal to the lowest common denominator and get more sales (what do you expect, this is an EA game) then when it finally released they realized that a significant portion actually recognized shitty hack writing, and even those that didn't knew something was up when they finished the game and thought 'I've spent tens of hours on these story based games but in the end the story didn't fulfil me' basically it's the one example of the gaming community at large realizing how shit AAA games have become
I'm still inclined to believe BioWare.
[QUOTE=A Smaller God;40560093]i hope one of the lessons is less creepy romances[/QUOTE] i don't think chatting to your crew because you're intrigued about their story then ACCIDENTALLY ending up balls deep in them is how relationships in real life work [editline]8th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sadim;40561370]Great? Does that mean they'll stop shoving someones sexual preference in my face and flaunting it about? "HEY! GAY PEOPLE EXIST. HEY. HEEEY. WE'RE SO PROGRESSIVE AS A COMPANY."[/QUOTE] but they're not - you've got the option of a gay romance but you don't HAVE to go down that route you're just an intolerant fuck
[QUOTE=RichyZ;40560135]i really want fully written out choices as in not "berate" option but have it highlighted and display "fuck you faggot i hope you die for what you've done" in the subtitle space so you actually know what you say[/QUOTE] iirc everyone that reviewed it loved how Alpha Protocol never told you exactly what the dialogue choices would be, just verbs like "flirt" or "taunt" I'd find it more interesting if it were like that in most games
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40564412]i don't think chatting to your crew because you're intrigued about their story then ACCIDENTALLY ending up balls deep in them is how relationships in real life work[/QUOTE] To be honest, I thought the conversation system between squadmates was nice in ME3. Yes, a bit impersonal, but the topics were always a bit fresh.
[QUOTE=cccritical;40564428]iirc everyone that reviewed it loved how Alpha Protocol never told you exactly what the dialogue choices would be, just verbs like "flirt" or "taunt" I'd find it more interesting if it were like that in most games[/QUOTE] And you could actually fail in conversations and make people not like you, it was really cool and because of that no-one bought it because the gaming community's full of retards
I thought it was because Alpha Protocol was otherwise pretty bland.
alpha protocol was very well written but the graphics weren't up to much and the gameplay wasn't stellar, non-idiots can look past it but the gaming community's dominated by 13 year old boys who are by their very nature idiots play it sometime, it's really underrated
[QUOTE=Sadim;40561370]Great? Does that mean they'll stop shoving someones sexual preference in my face and flaunting it about? "HEY! GAY PEOPLE EXIST. HEY. HEEEY. WE'RE SO PROGRESSIVE AS A COMPANY."[/QUOTE] you're pretty much dumb if you think the entire issue behind the sexual encounters in me3 was homosexuality. the straight romances were JUST as awful as the gay ones, if you've played the game you'd know that. besides, the prominent gay character in the game, cortez, isn't a flaunty "OH MY GOD IM SO GAAAAAAAY" character that many put him out to be. shepherd asks him why he's so sad, he goes "my husband died." there. that's the extent of his gayness.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40564515]you're pretty much dumb if you think the entire issue behind the sexual encounters in me3 was homosexuality. the straight romances were JUST as awful as the gay ones, if you've played the game you'd know that. besides, the prominent gay character in the game, cortez, isn't a flaunty "OH MY GOD IM SO GAAAAAAAY" character that many put him out to be. shepherd asks him why he's so sad, he goes "my husband died." there. that's the extent of his gayness.[/QUOTE] like, if you're offended that there's the OPTION of a gay romance in a game you're in the same mindset as people who are offended that gay people have the OPTION to get married or the OPTION to go and watch a film about gay people I hate the romances in ME3 because they were terribly written.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40564514]alpha protocol was very well written but the graphics weren't up to much and the gameplay wasn't stellar, non-idiots can look past it but the gaming community's dominated by 13 year old boys who are by their very nature idiots play it sometime, it's really underrated[/QUOTE] i second this. it looked like trash when i first saw it, but after playing it for a couple hours i was completely surprised. it has actual depth and shit. kinda reminds me of new vegas. it looks like a dumb shooty game with barely any story like fallout 3, but it has depth to it. [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40564532]like, if you're offended that there's the OPTION of a gay romance in a game you're in the same mindset as people who are offended that gay people have the OPTION to get married or the OPTION to go and watch a film about gay people I hate the romances in ME3 because they were terribly written.[/QUOTE] Seconded. People are fucking retarded for saying Bioware is a "bad evil developer trying to push GAY on me and use it as an excuse to evade criticism!!" That's not the case. They're introducing gay characters with gay romances, which is cool, but they're just horribly written. It's not offensive to gay people, it's not offensive to homophobes. Not at all. They're just not good characters.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;40564514]alpha protocol was very well written but the graphics weren't up to much and the gameplay wasn't stellar, non-idiots can look past it but the gaming community's dominated by 13 year old boys who are by their very nature idiots play it sometime, it's really underrated[/QUOTE] also it had absolutely RIDICULOUS attention to detail. you could do fucking anything and it would in some way show up, usually in a pretty cool moment - just one short conversation with a dude could be massively different depending on something you wouldn't have thought would matter, and that conversation would no doubt affect countless other ones. like literally just the first things you ever say in the very first moments of the game stay relevant all throughout the rest of it, and that's just one example out of tons and tons.
[QUOTE=Cone;40565268]also it had absolutely RIDICULOUS attention to detail. you could do fucking anything and it would in some way show up, usually in a pretty cool moment - just one short conversation with a dude could be massively different depending on something you wouldn't have thought would matter, and that conversation would no doubt affect countless other ones. like literally just the first things you ever say in the very first moments of the game stay relevant all throughout the rest of it, and that's just one example out of tons and tons.[/QUOTE] Now I want to replay it hhh Worst criticism I had about it was that anti aliasing made the dialogue choices disappear :v:
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