• Skype now hides IP addresses to protect online gamers from trolls
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[QUOTE=Giraffen93;49589158]too bad that ts/discord doesn't support sending text messages or calling real phones, otherwise i'd use those, otherwise they're pretty useless to me and "regular" people have never heard of them anyway[/QUOTE] I use Discord the same way I would on the PC on my Android phone. I was in a panic a week ago, actually because I didn't know what specific brand of lettuce I was supposed to get for my little brother's pets and his phone was dead. I just popped on Discord and dropped a text message. On an alternate day, my brothers were away from home (complicated situation) but wanted to hang out with my family members as I made dinner for myself, so I joined the voice chat and talked to them like that. I really think Discord is fun and really easy to use and I think that for a person to actually straight up not like it, they have to be resistant to change or easily annoyed, which is fine because I don't want them in my Discord chatroom anyway. It's a disservice to themselves, and I'm not sure why Discord is being treated like a cult following.
I'd totally switch, thing is nobody I know also uses it and I'm not going to be the guy that tries to convince everyone in their friends list to switch. Being a program that is the most known out of all similar programs is the biggest and most important upside Skype has over anything else. Discord could be literally better in all other aspects and I'd still be using Skype.
Looked into discord more. No self hosted servers and no linux client? No thanks.
[QUOTE=Octopod;49589221]I'd totally switch, thing is nobody I know also uses it and I'm not going to be the guy that tries to convince everyone in their friends list to switch. Being a program that is the most known out of all similar programs is the biggest and most important upside Skype has over anything else. Discord could be literally better in all other aspects and I'd still be using Skype.[/QUOTE] That's the problem I have with Telegram. If more people were on Telegram, I'd be happy to use it. Otherwise, I can't switch because there's no reason to.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;49589369]That's the problem I have with Telegram. If more people were on Telegram, I'd be happy to use it. Otherwise, I can't switch because there's no reason to.[/QUOTE] this is the thing really, nobody i know of knows what discord is, and [I]i[/I] heard about telegram existing a few days ago skype however is mass marketed and readily available for everything, and on that end, probably [I]everyone[/I] i know knows what skype is [t]http://rp.braxnet.org/scr/145353757184071.png[/t] honestly, i don't really find skype that cumbersome. i never see any ads, and i use compact mode so i see the stuff i want only thing is that it crashes like once in a blue moon but that's it
Skype is good for a group of friends. (Screenshare, voice quality, phonecalls, etc) Discord is probably better for groups of 10-whatever amount of people. [editline]23rd January 2016[/editline] More of a Teamspeak fan though.
Fuck discord, you can't send minion "mojis" to people on discord.
[QUOTE=Levelog;49588974]Worse UI[/QUOTE] TS always had a really convoluted interface for what is supposed to be a voip program IMO. Permissions are badly handled, and auth is weird for people who don't know how certs work, but other than that it's got a lot on TS for me: Self-hosted, open source, full encryption. Discord is mediocre, the only thing it has on TS or Mumble is ease of use and looking good. Discord is also closed and appears to not have a monitization method, so it won't surprise me if it disappears in a year or two.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;49589756]TS always had a really convoluted interface for what is supposed to be a voip program IMO. Permissions are badly handled, and auth is weird for people who don't know how certs work, but other than that it's got a lot on TS for me: Self-hosted, open source, full encryption. [/QUOTE] Can't edit my posts for some reason, meant to say Mumble's permissions are terribly handled, I don't run a TS server because aforementioned closeness.
[QUOTE=CoixNiro;49589715]Fuck discord, you can't send minion "mojis" to people on discord.[/QUOTE] I'd count that as like a hundred points in Discord's favour, personally.
Discord is fine as a service but how the hell are they gonna keep it alive? Are they even making money from it
[QUOTE=glitchvid;49589770]Can't edit my posts for some reason, meant to say Mumble's permissions are terribly handled, I don't run a TS server because aforementioned closeness.[/QUOTE] How is TS not self hosted?
To me, this sounds like a clever rewording of "We now route your conversations through our servers, rather than merely facilitate [URL="http://www.zdnet.com/article/skype-ditched-peer-to-peer-supernodes-for-scalability-not-surveillance/"]peer-to-peer[/URL] connections. Why? Because gaming trolls!"
[QUOTE=Levelog;49589825]How is TS not self hosted?[/QUOTE] TS is self hosted, Discord is not. I don't use TS because it's closed source. [QUOTE=Hypershadsy;49589840]To me, this sounds like a clever rewording of "We now route your conversations through our servers, rather than merely facilitate [URL="http://www.zdnet.com/article/skype-ditched-peer-to-peer-supernodes-for-scalability-not-surveillance/"]peer-to-peer[/URL] connections. Why? Because gaming trolls!"[/QUOTE] No, using Skype to grab a person's IP is indeed a common problem, thought I do agree this opens up Skype for potential abuse of information, especially since Microsoft is NSA cooperating.
[QUOTE=Levelog;49589300]Looked into discord more. No self hosted servers and no linux client? No thanks.[/QUOTE] Just run it in your browser. The same god damn thing. [editline]23rd January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Levelog;49588974]Worse UI[/QUOTE] It's open-source. Use a third-party client or fix it yourself.
[QUOTE=benbb;49589894]It's open-source. Use a third-party client or fix it yourself.[/QUOTE] That's a terrible counter-argument. Most people want a simple solution; why would someone bother spending the time and effort to find a better UI for Mumble when they can download TS3 from the official website and have a UI that looks nice and works fine? Why go for the additional effort with mumble when they couldn't care less about the advantages (which to most people aren't important/relevant at all) of mumble?
Mumble is for the lowest latency with the highest voice quality, it does that better than anything else -- this is what you get Mumble for, everything else is irrelevant. If people are deciding between Mumble and TS based entirely on UI choices then they don't even know what the fuck they are looking for in their VOIP to begin with.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49589974]That's a terrible counter-argument. Most people want a simple solution; why would someone bother spending the time and effort to find a better UI for Mumble when they can download TS3 from the official website and have a UI that looks nice and works fine? Why go for the additional effort with mumble when they couldn't care less about the advantages[B] (which to most people aren't important/relevant at all)[/B] of mumble?[/QUOTE] The Mumble and TS3 UI are rather similar visually, in fact mumble likes to hide stuff behind menus as to reduce a lot of the visual clutter as opposed to TS3. TS3 is certainly better than Skype, but realize that people are going to pose the same argument when you tell them to move from Skype to TS3. [t]http://zdjecia.pl.sftcdn.net/pl/scrn/21000/21547/teamspeak-3-03-532x535.png[/t] vs [t]https://blog.natenom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/mumble_1.2.4_beta1_hauptfenster.png[/t]
I like mumble, especially the thing that lowers the volume of everything else when someone is talking, but I just wish it'd fucking stay centered on the channel I'm in, and not slowly drift to another channel when people join/leave.
Why put them on display at all?
[QUOTE=Xyrec;49586999]Nah, fuck Skype. Let's all just use Discord instead, much better service.[/QUOTE] I just use Teamspeak normally, but there's like 3 people I know who refuse to use anything but Skype and fml it's annoying
Skype mobile is literally the slowest, buggiest piece of shit.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;49589756]TS always had a really convoluted interface for what is supposed to be a voip program IMO. Permissions are badly handled, and auth is weird for people who don't know how certs work, but other than that it's got a lot on TS for me: Self-hosted, open source, full encryption. Discord is mediocre, the only thing it has on TS or Mumble is ease of use and looking good. Discord is also closed and appears to not have a monitization method, so it won't surprise me if it disappears in a year or two.[/QUOTE] I think for [I]most [/I]people Discord/Skype and TS/Mumble aren't functionally the same. On Discord/Skype a lot of people tend to be accessible 24/7. It has persistent chat and offline private messaging, decent mobile apps. Its a prefect replacement for the steam/skype/offline-twitch chats, voip is only one feature, i've used Discord for VOIP like once, everything else has been text chat.
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