• Metal Gear Solid V looks best on PC proves shocking new evidence
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[QUOTE=xianlee;48407599]The PC vs console argument always makes me laugh, why do people care so much about it? Why does it matter if someone enjoys playing on console or just prefer them over PC? I game on both and have no issues with it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I can afford to buy a new PC but frankly I just don't think it's worth several hundred pounds to make a pretty game look prettier. If that upsets people then whatever. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;48408883]i should always list the 360 as an exception, been through 3 of those damned things thanks to microsoft sucking at hardware[/QUOTE] Did you stand yours up or lay them flat? Laying them flat blocks these little air holes, it could be coincidence but everyone I know who did so ended up with a broken 360. [t]http://www.ixbt.com/consoles/images/info_xbox360/xbox360ph_side_bottom.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48409520]Yeah, I can afford to buy a new PC but frankly I just don't think it's worth several hundred pounds to make a pretty game look prettier. If that upsets people then whatever. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] Did you stand yours up or lay them flat? Laying them flat blocks these little air holes, it could be coincidence but everyone I know who did so ended up with a broken 360. [t]http://www.ixbt.com/consoles/images/info_xbox360/xbox360ph_side_bottom.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I laid mine flat for 6 years with no problems at all, however it was the black elite version. Bought it back in January 2008 after my last vanilla 360 broke (had it for about a year), still had the potential to run Far Cry 3 in 2013.
Why does it really matter? Get the game on a platform you enjoy. Yes fancy graphics are fine but it the story and gameplay that make a game fun. Who cares how someone else plays it, your not the one playing it. Comparisons of graphics isn't to shit on other platforms it is to show their technical limits and provides benchmarks an examples for people who have multiple platform's.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48409520]Yeah, I can afford to buy a new PC but frankly I just don't think it's worth several hundred pounds to make a pretty game look prettier. If that upsets people then whatever. [editline]8th August 2015[/editline] Did you stand yours up or lay them flat? Laying them flat blocks these little air holes, it could be coincidence but everyone I know who did so ended up with a broken 360. [t]http://www.ixbt.com/consoles/images/info_xbox360/xbox360ph_side_bottom.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] They're supposed to go flat. There's no real airflow out of those holes but the nubs should be enough to give it what it needs. They [I]really[/I] don't want you accidentally tipping the console over when it's running.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48405845]you dont need to upgrade consoles as well, i cant see my 970 lasting that much longer even though its a relatively new card, i can see the bone and 4 playing games for at least 5 more years without a hitch[/QUOTE] If you think that consoles will produce better graphics for longer than a 970 you are just factually wrong, no matter what side of the issue you are on this is actually wrong, both console and pc have merits, one is not 100% better than the other IMO, but what you are saying here is factually incorrect,.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48412376]we'll see about that, consoles can be optimized as fuck[/QUOTE] Yes the games can be very well optimized for their hardware, but the 970 is way more powerful than any APU graphics a console can put out, mind you it is almost as much as the console itself, I'm not advocating pcmasterrace here im just saying that particular card is very powerful.
honestly i think consoles are great and i was happy playing games on consoles until very recently because the games i wanted to play were PC games or had more features on PC (modding support). i put together a gaming pc a couple of months ago and its been pretty swell but i don't feel at home on pc, theres a certain charm to playing on a console for me. [editline]9th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;48412376]we'll see about that, consoles can be optimized as fuck[/QUOTE] examples of this include gta4 and red dead redemption, given not only the hardware they were released for, but also the years they were released.
[QUOTE=LeonS;48400372]"Metal Gear Solid V releases on September 1st. It comes out on other things that are not PCs, but only idiots will buy it on those." this is a good quote[/QUOTE] And a true one
[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;48401136]I'm not a console pleb, I just hate it when people actually care if a game looks slightly better on PC.[/QUOTE] While I do agree some games look virtually the same on consoles and PC except if you look at them with a magnifying glass which nobody does when actually playing, The Phantom Pain is [I]not[/I] one of these cases. The difference between PS4 and PC is visible on regular screenshots on a consistent basis.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48405756]getting a pc isn't a 1 time effort, throughout the pc's lifecycle you need to take care of it unless you want it to perform progressively worse over the years not to mention viruses and shit also you'll rarely ever suffer a bad port playing on a console, pc gets them by the truckload every year by every publisher[/QUOTE] In 10 years I haven't got a single virus, and bad ports are due to consoles and lazy devs that dont want to do it right for every single platform. Consoles are definently easier to get into, but PC just sounds like such a nicer platform...
If you can't tell the difference I honestly envy you. Lots of normally subtle differences can make a world of difference to me, ie proper color correction, post process effects, etc. If I notice a bad case of aliasing, or an object with an noticeably low poly count my subconscious tends to dwell on it because I know it shouldn't be there, and it really kills my immersion.
How did they manage to make the ps3/xb screenshots so blurry? Did they upscale the image 5 times before scaling it down again?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48405591]ok and with a console theres barely any chance of failure and theres basically no maintenance [B]soz consoles aren't really holding gaming back,[/B] uninventive game designers and overly restrictive publishers are, and always will hold gaming back its like trying to argue against buying fast food, yeah its cheaper and better for you to cook your own food, but fuck you im gonna buy fast food because its more convenient to me also 650 is deffo not enough for a pc that will surpass current gen standards, i got all my shit for my new pc last black friday for almost 900 buckerinos[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=RichyZ;48405756]getting a pc isn't a 1 time effort, throughout the pc's lifecycle you need to take care of it unless you want it to perform progressively worse over the years not to mention viruses and shit [B]also you'll rarely ever suffer a bad port playing on a console,[/B] pc gets them by the truckload every year by every publisher[/QUOTE] Yeah you're gonna have to make up your mind, you can't make the statement "consoles aint holding games back" and then immediately after giving an example of consoles doing literally that.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48417594]Yeah you're gonna have to make up your mind, you can't make the statement "consoles aint holding games back" and then immediately after giving an example of consoles doing literally that.[/QUOTE] Bad ports aren't the fault of consoles existing. They are the fault of developers not having the time, resources, know how or care to actually put the game on to a new platform properly. This shit would happen with or without consoles as PCs aren't exactly homogeneous. Different operating systems would likely suffer the "bad port" problem too.
I really, really hope Phantom Pain sells well enough on PC that Konami is graceful enough to grant us ports of the HD collection on PC. I'm almost dying to play Metal Gear Solid 2-3 with modern ports and proper controls.
The proper controls fir MGS is a controller, especially the analog controllers of the PS2/PS3.
[QUOTE=bdd458;48417756]The proper controls fir MGS is a controller, especially the analog controllers of the PS2/PS3.[/QUOTE] Gotta have those analogue inputs. A tiny bit if pressure is the difference between getting intel or having a body to drag around and I love it for that. Shame so few games used the analogue stuff.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48417816]its inevitable for devs/publishers to not give a shit about some games' optimization[/QUOTE] Yeah but when they only have one architecture to care about it's gonna be a better result overall regardless of how little devs care. And before you say "but ps4/xbone1 has x86!!!" thats the exact reason there are about 1-2 exclusives per new-gen console (that and the fact that console interest has dropped like hell). And beyond that, the x86 on consoles are absolutely modified to allow for the unified memory.
[QUOTE=bdd458;48417756]The proper controls fir MGS is a controller, especially the analog controllers of the PS2/PS3.[/QUOTE] I was surprised over how good the keyboard and mouse was in GZ
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;48413148]honestly i think consoles are great and i was happy playing games on consoles until very recently because the games i wanted to play were PC games or had more features on PC (modding support). i put together a gaming pc a couple of months ago and its been pretty swell but i don't feel at home on pc, theres a certain charm to playing on a console for me.[/QUOTE] I can attest to this when I started playing PC games. A lot of it was to do with the fact that I had a lot of memories bundled up on games consoles, but as time went on and I built new memorable moments on PC and started to bring my old stuff to it as well through emulation that is when it really stopped. The charm on PC also took a major stride forward as I started to realise how much of an open platform it is and how versatile it can be.
what people need to realise is that yeah, pc's do run into problems; they fuck up. you have to maintain them. ports aren't always great. it's expensive. but at the end of that, what you get is a much better experience that is highly valued by the people who strive toward it, obviously. it's a labour of love. you put in, you get out. people who don't think it's worth it are more than welcome to play it on a console. but for enthusiasts who wants the best, it's all part of the experience. they do it because they love it.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;48419088]what people need to realise is that yeah, pc's do run into problems; they fuck up. you have to maintain them. ports aren't always great. it's expensive. but at the end of that, what you get is a much better experience that is highly valued by the people who strive toward it, obviously. it's a labour of love. you put in, you get out. people who don't think it's worth it are more than welcome to play it on a console. but for enthusiasts who wants the best, it's all part of the experience. they do it because they love it.[/QUOTE] Maybe I just don't care about graphics enough, but I don't think playing MGSV in 4K is a "much better" experience that warrants the price.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48419841]Maybe I just don't care about graphics enough, but I don't think playing MGSV is a "much better" experience that warrants the price.[/QUOTE] It's not just graphics that warrant the better experience, its modding, better graphics, better viewdistance, free multiplayer & so on. Might even be higher player count on PC on MGO (although this is not confirmed in any way)
[QUOTE=Starship;48419883]It's not just graphics that warrant the better experience, its modding, better graphics, better viewdistance, free multiplayer & so on. Might even be higher player count on PC on MGO (although this is not confirmed in any way)[/QUOTE] Two of those things you listed are literally graphics though. As far as I'm aware the multiplayer on PSN is free, and I doubt those few advantages + I'll see any mods that warrant shelling out several hundred more on a capable rig.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48419931]Two of those things you listed are literally graphics though. As far as I'm aware the multiplayer on PSN is free, and I doubt those few advantages + I'll see any mods that warrant shelling out several hundred more on a capable rig.[/QUOTE] PS4 multiplayer isn't free except for anything f2p apparently.
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;48419948]PS4 multiplayer isn't free except for anything f2p apparently.[/QUOTE] Fairly sure it was down to developer discretion as to whether or not you pay to play online. Using the PSN sub fee probably allows a developer to use some of Sonys services instead of rolling their own.
I'd still get a pc instead, seeing how almost my whole gaming setup(or at least the part that matters) is based around pc and steam, and the final nail in the coffin has set itself, which was metal gear on pc, which is mgsV. Still need a new pc, but if I were to get a console instead, it would be wasting a steam account thats like 11 years old or something...
I'm going to play MGSV on my PC, PS4, and PS3... at the same time.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48405719]A lot of people can't even play at this level of detail unless they have a nuclear powered rig.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised how well it runs even on older rigs. An the maximum settings are really not out of this world.
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