• Pay As You Churn: Dead Space 3
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[QUOTE=vexx21322;39314597]Does EA ever just step back and look at what they are doing?[/QUOTE] Yeah. They step back and think of ways to get even more money. This will be their downfall.
[QUOTE=jonoPorter;39314622]When will people realise that COOP IS COMPLETLY OPTIONAL? If you want to play alone, fine. No silly AI companion and shit like that. Carter will only show up at certain random points of the game and will not be permanently with you.[/QUOTE] But then why pay so much for a title and not use half of it?
Who puts microtransactions in campaign mode?
god darn them for putting an optional thing in the game that I can ignore completely
[QUOTE=bepassley;39315148]god darn them for putting an optional thing in the game that I can ignore completely[/QUOTE] they're literally charging for something that was free 10 years ago. I shouldn't have to pay for cheat codes. [editline]22nd January 2013[/editline] they're not putting anything optional in, they're taking features out for me.
[QUOTE=Dejarie;39314281]Don't like Co-op? Play singleplayer. Don't like microtransactions? Don't buy them. Don't like dodge rolls? Don't use them. Don't like human enemies? What did you expect, we've been fucking up the Church and Earth Gov's plans from day one. I'm still buying this, and I imagine a lot of people saying the game is 'ruined' will as well. Every year we have a dozen cases of this.[/QUOTE] When devs put systems like these in place, you're typically crippled unless you take advantage of them because they've have redesigned the game to fit them. Do I have to buy microtransactions? No. Will the game dripfeed resources so that I'll start to wish that I had? Maybe. EA is a bugger about that shit. Do I have to use dodgerolls? No. Will the enemies and scenarios be modified in such a way that I'll be fucked if I don't use them? If the demo is anything to go by, most definitely. Do human enemies make sense in terms of story? Sure. But as Mark Twain said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Don't let the story get in the way of good gameplay." Co-op I concede shouldn't be an issue, since you don't get an AI partner if you play singleplayer. I fear though that it might be designed for one or the other (either too hard for singleplayer, or too easy for co-op), with only enemy health and damage being adjusted between the two.
[QUOTE=Dejarie;39314281]Don't like Co-op? Play singleplayer. Don't like microtransactions? Don't buy them. Don't like dodge rolls? Don't use them. Don't like human enemies? What did you expect, we've been fucking up the Church and Earth Gov's plans from day one. I'm still buying this, and I imagine a lot of people saying the game is 'ruined' will as well. Every year we have a dozen cases of this.[/QUOTE] This is such a dumb argument. You act like if you dont use them then they arent even there? The game still has this shit and universal ammo, and the game was defiantly built around co-op instead of singleplayer since its the same campaign, and aside from the co-op you will most likely have to use dodge rolling at points and most likely the cover shooting because they built parts of the game that pretty much force you to use them. Putting your hands over your eyes doesnt make this shit go away, its still in the game and its still shit.
[QUOTE=Dejarie;39314281]Don't like Co-op? Play singleplayer. Don't like microtransactions? Don't buy them. Don't like dodge rolls? Don't use them. Don't like human enemies? What did you expect, we've been fucking up the Church and Earth Gov's plans from day one. I'm still buying this, and I imagine a lot of people saying the game is 'ruined' will as well. Every year we have a dozen cases of this.[/QUOTE] And then you have forced co-op with AI... And then you get a grindfest of an experience, making everything boring as fuck... And then it becomes a waste.. And then we get a game just like everything else. See the resemblance to RE games? Dodging, co-op, human enemies instead of actually scary oogley boogleys... You can't act like that stuff isn't there. They have been progressively showing us they can go further down the hill like the RE series went just to milk more money. "What? People are too scared so they didn't want to buy any other DS game? Shut down everything and take the horror out! We aren't milking this enough! And don't forget the generic features that games really need nowadays!" It's pretty obvious by now. RE went the same way. Capcom's director or whoever it was said it himself, that he had to appeal to western markets (with cookie cutter plots and gimmicks), the same Capcom that releases a few hundred on-disk DLC. Now, it's Dead Space's turn to sink down to mediocrity and vulgarity, and microtransactions (in a fucking singleplayer game) is the final nail in this particular coffin. They should have stopped at DS2.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;39315898]And then you have forced co-op with AI... And then you get a grindfest of an experience, making everything boring as fuck... And then it becomes a waste.. And then we get a game just like everything else. See the resemblance to RE games? Dodging, co-op, human enemies instead of actually scary oogley boogleys... You can't act like that stuff isn't there. They have been progressively showing us they can go further down the hill like the RE series went just to milk more money. "What? People are too scared so they didn't want to buy any other DS game? Shut down everything and take the horror out! We aren't milking this enough! And don't forget the generic features that games really need nowadays!" It's pretty obvious by now. RE went the same way. Capcom's director or whoever it was said it himself, that he had to appeal to western markets (with cookie cutter plots and gimmicks), the same Capcom that releases a few hundred on-disk DLC. Now, it's Dead Space's turn to sink down to mediocrity and vulgarity, and microtransactions (in a fucking singleplayer game) is the final nail in this particular coffin. They should have stopped at DS2.[/QUOTE] What's even worse is that people are going to torrent this just out of spite and end up causing more mayhem.
[QUOTE=BlkDucky;39315367]they're literally charging for something that was free 10 years ago. I shouldn't have to pay for cheat codes. [editline]22nd January 2013[/editline] they're not putting anything optional in, they're taking features out for me.[/QUOTE] Well unless you've actually played the full game I sincerely doubt you know what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=bepassley;39317543]Well unless you've actually played the full game I sincerely doubt you know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Except I clearly do. Remember when you could just use a cheat to give yourself free stuff in a singleplayer game? They're literally charging for that. How you can't see this is beyond me.
"Hey guys its optional you dont have to do it" So people are saying to ignore bad game design now? thus lowering standards for developers, If we all ignored the stuff we didnt like in games every game would be like resident evil 6 and other crappy milked franchises. If we just ignore this and promote micro transactions in single player games we miles well bend over to EA now.
[QUOTE=Valdread;39317907]"Hey guys its optional you dont have to do it" So people are saying to ignore bad game design now? thus lowering standards for developers, If we all ignored the stuff we didnt like in games every game would be like resident evil 6 and other crappy milked franchises. If we just ignore this and promote micro transactions in single player games we miles well bend over to EA now.[/QUOTE] On the opposite side of the spectrum, if I spent my full time in unnecessarily premature critic mode I'd never want to play any video games. Some of the complaints about DS3 are somewhat legitimate I guess but dodge rolling really isn't what makes or breaks a game and its hilarious to see how fucking asinine people are getting every time EA releases a game.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;39317993]On the opposite side of the spectrum, if I spent my full time in unnecessarily premature critic mode I'd never want to play any video games. Some of the complaints about DS3 are somewhat legitimate I guess but dodge rolling really isn't what makes or breaks a game and its hilarious to see how fucking asinine people are getting every time EA releases a game.[/QUOTE] I Don't mind the rolling, as there were times a dodge option in the first one would of been useful, but with mirco transactions its just gonna make the player grind if they dont want to pay. Like if no one buys anything at the store then thats good, but the game will still be designed in a way in which you'll have to grind unnecessarily to make the player want to take a shortcut via the store in order to get around the grinding.
[QUOTE=vexx21322;39316638]What's even worse is that people are going to torrent this just out of spite and end up causing more mayhem.[/QUOTE] And sadly, no one that matters will tell EA the reason why it might get torrented to hell instead of actually bought, and EA will blame it on stuff that nobody cares. I wish it was the most torrented game ever, but ONLY if EA actually "got the picture" of why it got so torrented. I know that's harsh and bad for the devs, but come on EA, you gotta stop killing your best franchises. [editline]22nd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=bepassley;39317543]Well unless you've actually played the full game I sincerely doubt you know what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] If you take a look at games nowadays, particularly games that are supposed to be scary, they deliver at least some form of what they should deliver (horror, in this case) until you get a couple of chapters near the end. When you get to said chapters, there is absolutely nothing scary going on anymore. Think of it as a summer blockbuster horror movie. Makes you scream a few times, maybe even shit yourself here and there, then gets to a part where the characters find out the big bad wolf and its weaknesses/story/whatever, and everything past that point is just an action movie, with nothing frightening, and nothing that makes you question when will be the next time you'll jump in your seat. FEAR 2 actually sort of went that way, but at least the rape scene was disturbing. [editline]22nd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Valdread;39317907]"Hey guys its optional you dont have to do it" So people are saying to ignore bad game design now? thus lowering standards for developers, If we all ignored the stuff we didnt like in games every game would be like resident evil 6 and other crappy milked franchises. If we just ignore this and promote micro transactions in single player games we miles well bend over to EA now.[/QUOTE] Heh, imagining ignoring the bad things about MW3... How would people even play the game? :v: [editline]22nd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Raidyr;39317993]On the opposite side of the spectrum, if I spent my full time in unnecessarily premature critic mode I'd never want to play any video games. Some of the complaints about DS3 are somewhat legitimate I guess but dodge rolling really isn't what makes or breaks a game and its hilarious to see how fucking asinine people are getting every time EA releases a game.[/QUOTE] I don't have any problem with EA, up until now, when they start changing their franchises just to bring in more money.
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