[QUOTE=EddieLTU;52621190]can't even afford one[/QUOTE]
You can get a real decent mechanical keyboard for $32 friend
[url]https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B016MAK38U[/url]
Obviously if you want genuine Cherry switches and other fancy shit you'll pay more, but the one I just linked ain't bad at all for $32.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52621219]You can get a real decent mechanical keyboard for $32 friend
[url]https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B016MAK38U[/url]
Obviously if you want genuine Cherry switches and other fancy shit you'll pay more, but the one I just linked ain't bad at all for $32.[/QUOTE]
And if you want genuine Cherry switches, you can still get second-hand first-party Cherry boards for cheap if you know where to look or what to search for.
[t]https://i.imgur.com/QpaTmfK.png[/t]
$30 total shipped from Germany to Earth's asscrack.
[editline]28th August 2017[/editline]
There is one downside to the current resurgence of mechs that the article glossed over, thought.
Although customisation is one of the biggest appeals of mechanical keyboard, the most popular mainstream keyboards use proprietary layouts that severely limit customisation. You just will not find nearly as many keycap sets that support Corsair and Razer's 6.5u spacebars, or that have a 1.5u Windows key and 5.5u spacebar like G.skill's new keyboard, or a 5.75u spacebar like Logitech's G610, etc. The only mainstream keyboard manufacturer that sticks to standard ANSI/ISO specs is Cooler Master.
I personally use an old buckling spring PS2 keyboard and it works great. It still has the tactile feedback while being quieter than the majority of mechanical keyboards. Lasted me 12 years thus far :)
Durability, I have slight issues controlling the strength of taps sometimes, membrane keyboards wear out too fast for me.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;52621486]Am I the only one still using a stock, wired [url=https://www.staples.com/Microsoft-Wired-Keyboard-200-Black-JWD-00046/product_371756]Microsoft keyboard 200[/url] and some very old, basic HP mouse from what must be almost a decade ago?
Never got why people buy fancy mice and keyboards. Always thought that the best keyboard and mouse are the ones that you're most used to. I perform better in video games with this keyboard than with actual professional ones, and I type fluently and with ease. Give me a fancy 100 dollar keyboard and I start fumbling keys and actually have to sometimes look at the keyboard itself, like I'm back to the "which button do i press to connect to the ethernet" era.[/QUOTE]
You said it's yourself, it's about getting used to it. I don't know about keyboards since I use some shitty office keyboard that I don't even know where I bought, but after a period of getting used to the fatness and weight of my G502 it definitely felt like it performed better, and the added functionality is a plus.
But it's all marginal. Mechanical keyboards, gamer mice, it's marginal. It's not gonna make anyone suck less.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;52621486]Always thought that the best keyboard and mouse are the ones that you're most used to.[/QUOTE]
Yes, clearly you perform the best with whatever you're the most comfortable with. So, get one that lasts. For keyboards, that means mechanical.
The marketing blurb for "professional" gear suggesting it gives you an actual edge in gaming is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;52621628]Yes, clearly you perform the best with whatever you're the most comfortable with. So, get one that lasts. For keyboards, that means mechanical.
The marketing blurb for "professional" gear suggesting it gives you an actual edge in gaming is bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Keyboard response time has a quantifiable and verifiable impact on performance ability, the same goes for headsets, and mice. The argument that anyone's been using X Y or Z for however many years, is also valid. But it's a case of usage and preference.
However, the level of performance increase is relative to the type of game, and more simply, how the user has developed muscle memory. I'm using a 5-ish year old Razer Anasi keyboard, and I know factually that I could improve my performance across several FPS's, not to mention WPM in typing, and overall quality of life. But, again, we're talking gains of percents of milliseconds across individual games.
The overall thing a person needs to ask themselves is if their skill cap is hindered by the equipment they're using. Your keyboard is only as much of an improvement as you can make it be. Membrane? Mechanical? The "which is better" question isn't a question anymore. It's opinion. As much development as mechanical keyboards are getting, there are some damned fine membrane and quasi-mechanical boards as well.
What I want to know is why no-one is interested in the pressure-sensitive keyboard that's come out recently.
[QUOTE=Worldwaker;52621721]Keyboard response time has a quantifiable and verifiable impact on performance ability, the same goes for headsets, and mice. The argument that anyone's been using X Y or Z for however many years, is also valid. But it's a case of usage and preference.
However, the level of performance increase is relative to the type of game, and more simply, how the user has developed muscle memory. I'm using a 5-ish year old Razer Anasi keyboard, and I know factually that I could improve my performance across several FPS's, not to mention WPM in typing, and overall quality of life. But, again, we're talking gains of percents of milliseconds across individual games.
The overall thing a person needs to ask themselves is if their skill cap is hindered by the equipment they're using. Your keyboard is only as much of an improvement as you can make it be. Membrane? Mechanical? The "which is better" question isn't a question anymore. It's opinion. As much development as mechanical keyboards are getting, there are some damned fine membrane and quasi-mechanical boards as well.
What I want to know is why no-one is interested in the pressure-sensitive keyboard that's come out recently.[/QUOTE]
I'm interested, it's just the cost is ridiculously high for something that's not going to have a whole lot of support unless you do a lot of tinkering.
I still want one though.
Switch feel actually matters less to me than keycaps. I have a mechanical because I like my keycaps in a specific profile, a specific texture and made out of PBT.
[QUOTE=pentium;52620952]Yes however I don't care what I use because I'm not a baby.[/QUOTE]
Local man claims he isn't a baby, continues to whine about other peoples' choice of keyboard.
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I've used membrane all my life, does anyone know any places that let me actually test and see what a mechanical keyboard feels like? I saw an image of a Logitech stand in somewhere that iirc was German-speaking and it had three different tester keys but I haven't seen any of those here where I am.
[QUOTE=gk99;52624461]Local man claims he isn't a baby, continues to whine about other peoples' choice of keyboard.
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I've used membrane all my life, does anyone know any places that let me actually test and see what a mechanical keyboard feels like? I saw an image of a Logitech stand in somewhere that iirc was German-speaking and it had three different tester keys but I haven't seen any of those here where I am.[/QUOTE]
I think the best way would probably be to look on mechanical keyboard communities to see if there's a meetup planned near you, then you can go there and try out all the shit people bring.
Hm, I don't really like them. I know a lot of people do, but as a programmer (and I don't speak for programmers when I say this, because I know most enjoy mechanical keyboards) I much prefer more silent keyboards with flat keys. I suppose it's all just down to preference, though.
[QUOTE=Conna;52625025]Hm, I don't really like them. I know a lot of people do, but as a programmer (and I don't speak for programmers when I say this, because I know most enjoy mechanical keyboards) I much prefer more silent keyboards with flat keys. I suppose it's all just down to preference, though.[/QUOTE]
Compared to other switches, Browns are a fair bit quieter if that's what you want.
[video=youtube;hUN93Xz-7pg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=hUN93Xz-7pg[/video]
[editline]29th August 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;52624914]I think the best way would probably be to look on mechanical keyboard communities to see if there's a meetup planned near you, then you can go there and try out all the shit people bring.[/QUOTE]
Just get a switch tester kit for $14 on eBay
[url]http://m.ebay.com/itm/Acrylic-Keyboard-Tester-Kit-Clear-Plastic-Keycap-Sampler-for-Cherry-MX-Switches-/162465718747?var=461480635188&epid=738438432&hash=item25d3b621db%3Am%3Am2fc72IbjwLbf9JXINubc3w&_trkparms=pageci%253A284e0dc5-8cc1-11e7-b4e8-74dbd18052ef%257Cparentrq%253A2e42e30e15e0a9c4700dc57fffff8a99%257Ciid%253A1&varId=461480635188[/url]
[QUOTE=gk99;52624461]Local man claims he isn't a baby, continues to whine about other peoples' choice of keyboard.
[editline]a[/editline]
I've used membrane all my life, does anyone know any places that let me actually test and see what a mechanical keyboard feels like? I saw an image of a Logitech stand in somewhere that iirc was German-speaking and it had three different tester keys but I haven't seen any of those here where I am.[/QUOTE]
Best Buy or even Walmart should have some keyboards on display, including the mechs in their gaming section.
[QUOTE=pentium]--Anything said by pentium--[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, how can you even get to this level of antagonistic proto-hipster skull-fuckery.
It would be stupid to try using logic to drive you out of a conclusion you did not use logic to arrive to, so here's a review based on just use and no hype.
I bought a Razer Blackwidow 7 or so years back.
Don't particularly care for the brand, but I wanted to try out a mechanical as regular keyboards were breaking apart way too fast from my gaming sessions, that's the first thing I could find.
[I]I just went in expecting it to last longer.[/I]
After tens of thousands of hours of [I]intensive use[/I], it still feels brand new. I wanted to get a Chroma just to make it match my case but I keep telling myself why? this thing is intact.
Nothing has worn out, no LED has died, not a single 'wiggly' or out of place part.
Incredibly consistent, ergonomic (feels much easier on the fingers.), precise and handy (options to remap controls and create macros.)
I don't know how you came to anything of what you've said, brother I can only hope you're trolling for the sake of your own mental health.
[media]https://soundcloud.com/max-lyons-70469166/pentium[/media]
made this in celebration of probably the best/worst post that i've seen on facepunch in 2017
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52626431][media]https://soundcloud.com/max-lyons-70469166/pentium[/media]
made this in celebration of probably the best/worst post that i've seen on facepunch in 2017[/QUOTE]
I suddenly want you and another talented voice to put together videos like this, of various arguments that occur on Facepunch.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxrWuE5qC5c[/media]
You could get several hours of content just out of the Communist debates that we get semi-regularly.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;52625969]Best Buy or even Walmart should have some keyboards on display, including the mechs in their gaming section.[/QUOTE]
I'd actually recommend against this because they're never taken care of and the wear and tear you get from massive wads of hair and skin, dust gets absolutely terrible
its so disgusting, and they're usually really shitty gaming brands like razor which uses off brand switches that are advertised to have a durability higher than cherry, yet on the official site have a lower durability than advertised
funnily enough, even THOSE dirty public keyboards are better than membranes
[editline]30th August 2017[/editline]
Just... use hand sanitizer afterwards
Imo mechanical keyboards are significantly more comfortable than rubber domes. It's just annoying that a lot of manufacturers see mechanical keyboards as gaming keyboards and slap LEDs all over its surface. I got a Corsair K70 at home and it's comfortable but I probably paid a lot for the LEDs which I've got turned off all the time. I recently started a new internship where I sit in front of a computer all day long and have to endure a Logitech K120, and my fingers ache by the end of the day because of how uncomfortable it is. Not to mention my typing speed is affected a lot because of the difference.
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