Some big CD company here started selling vinyls in their store too. I thought it was kinda strange but I guess this article explains it.
So the people who buy CDs today because they want a physical piece of the band/artist's art, these vinyls do a much better job at being something physical.
I like buying vinyls. They're cool and just better to hold and look at than CDs, plus almost all vinyls these days come with a download code for digital copies of the album in a variety of formats so you don't have to bother with ripping the music to listen to it on your computer.
every other person i know has a record player now
Why am I not surprised that Pink Floyd's new album boosted the vinyl market?
i love collecting vinyl because i feel like my records will be part of my legacy after i'm dead and gone.
There's a lot of things I like about the idea of owning a turntable/vinyl records but I probably wouldn't be able to explain why as eloquently as the intro of this video so here it is:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXNXJD5F0r4[/media]
[QUOTE=n0cturni;46609721]There's a lot of things I like about the idea of owning a turntable/vinyl records but I probably wouldn't be able to explain why as eloquently as the intro of this video so here it is:
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"Arguably warmer and more natural than compressed digital formats."
Don't listen to tiny lossy mp3s???
[QUOTE=Splarg!;46609833]"Arguably warmer and more natural than compressed digital formats."
Don't listen to tiny lossy mp3s???[/QUOTE]
[t]http://www.electronicproducts.com/uploadedImages/Digital_ICs/Video_Graphics_Audio/1.png[/t]
All digital formats compress audio into binary form. It gives you a more perfectly clean audio, but vinyls do have a smoother sound to them. It's just how computers work dude.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;46609833]"Arguably warmer and more natural than compressed digital formats."
Don't listen to tiny lossy mp3s???[/QUOTE]
The difference between high quality digital files and vinyl is something that can be argued about until the end of time; for me it's like owning a film vs a digital camera - the tradeoffs between the two mediums just give you a "different" rather than a "better" way of listening to the same music.
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[QUOTE=n0cturni;46609870]The difference between high quality digital files and vinyl is, just as mentioned, something that can be argued about until the end of time. For me it's like having a film vs a digital camera - the tradeoffs between the two mediums just give you a "different" rather than a "better" way of listening to the same music.[/QUOTE]
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eh automerge no editing in news node etc
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46609868][t]http://www.electronicproducts.com/uploadedImages/Digital_ICs/Video_Graphics_Audio/1.png[/t]
All digital formats compress audio into binary form. It gives you a more perfectly clean audio, but vinyls do have a smoother sound to them. It's just how computers work dude.[/QUOTE]
That's not very fair. The output device will move in a somewhat smooth way between the digital values, and the analog sound will have noise in it.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46609868][t]http://www.electronicproducts.com/uploadedImages/Digital_ICs/Video_Graphics_Audio/1.png[/t]
All digital formats compress audio into binary form. It gives you a more perfectly clean audio, but vinyls do have a smoother sound to them. It's just how computers work dude.[/QUOTE]
[t]http://www.hupi.org/HPeJ/0012/one_pulse.PNG[/t]
Don't look like legos to me.
Which might have to do with the idea that the amount of samples or the blocks as your image described, are can go to the tens of thousands or its sample rate.
V is a wolf don't listen to him
I like CD's, MP3s, Vinyls, and cassettes.
CD's for physical copies
MP3's for convenience
Vinyl for novelty and sound quality
Cassettes for novelty and super cheap price (plus in a lot of local music scenes, mine included, cassettes are the goto medium because they are super cheap to produce and hard to pirate)
Fuck all that pretentious "MY medium is BETTER!" bullshit.
[QUOTE=Sally;46609922][t]http://www.hupi.org/HPeJ/0012/one_pulse.PNG[/t]
Don't look like legos to me.[/QUOTE]
no shit :v:
If the audio waveform actually looked like that, it'd be an unlistenable mess. I'm referring more to how computers process sound. Everything is binary data, while analogue just uses a direct waveform.
Digital music gives you a more perfect, clean recording, while vinyl has a softer sound. It's less perfect then digital but warmer, though it comes down to personal preference.
It's a bad image yeah.
[QUOTE=Sally;46609922][t]http://www.hupi.org/HPeJ/0012/one_pulse.PNG[/t]
Don't look like legos to me.[/QUOTE]
lmao you really don't understand this at all, do you?
Dont get me wrong, the difference is often hardly noticeable, but analog recordings are literally as close to the original sound as possible. The graph is correct, but very exaggerated. Similar to how a screen can only display things in pixels (blocks), it can never be as accurate as something like film. Audio is the same way with sound files.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;46609947]lmao you really don't understand this at all, do you?
Dont get me wrong, the difference is often hardly noticeable, but analog recordings are literally as close to the original sound as possible. The graph is correct, but very exaggerated. Similar to how a screen can only display things in pixels (blocks), it can never be as accurate as something like film. Audio is the same way with sound files.[/QUOTE]
So what am I not understanding then?
[QUOTE=Sally;46609965]So what am I not understanding then?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;46609947]Similar to how a screen can only display things in pixels (blocks), it can never be as accurate as something like film. Audio is the same way with sound files.[/QUOTE]
They aren't saying digital audio is utter shit, they are saying that its not as accurate as analog.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;46609947]lmao you really don't understand this at all, do you?
Dont get me wrong, the difference is often hardly noticeable, but analog recordings are literally as close to the original sound as possible. The graph is correct, but very exaggerated. Similar to how a screen can only display things in pixels (blocks), it can never be as accurate as something like film. Audio is the same way with sound files.[/QUOTE]
Images made of pixels and digital audio recordings can be just as accurate as analog. Whatever device you use to record will have some amount of noise. So long as you record at least enough digital data to outpace the noise, the analog and digital recordings will be the same (though their noise will be different).
I have vinyl records because I like to handle them and I like most of the music that is on them and I think they are cool. I don't need any more reason than that.
I know I just bought Jack White's Lazaretto on vinyl as a Christmas gift for my dad, so I guess it is kind of coming back.
I own a Fitz & The Tantrums LP I picked up at one of their concerts, mainly for the artwork. It's by far the best-looking media format.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46609868][t]http://www.electronicproducts.com/uploadedImages/Digital_ICs/Video_Graphics_Audio/1.png[/t]
All digital formats compress audio into binary form. It gives you a more perfectly clean audio, but vinyls do have a smoother sound to them. It's just how computers work dude.[/QUOTE]
And what happens when you increase the sample rate? They become the same thing. Also, all music created in the last 60 years is all digital.
[QUOTE=aydin690;46610264]And what happens when you increase the bitrate? They become the same thing.[/QUOTE]
No matter how many pixels make up an image, they're still a bunch of blocks :v:
[QUOTE=aydin690;46610264]Also, all music created in the last 50 years is all digital.[/QUOTE]
Plenty of artists still use analogue methods while producing their music.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46610272]No matter how many pixels make up an image, they're still a bunch of blocks :v:
[B]Plenty of artists still use analogue methods while producing their music.[/B][/QUOTE]
lol what? I don't think you understand what you just said.
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All music is created using digital mixers in studios. True analog audio hasn't existed for over a century. You want to listen to DIGITAL uncompressed music on vinyls? That's fine, using the best modern techniques, you can have vinyls that have 24-bit, 96khz resolution BUT vinyls are going to have distortions, speed variations, and noise/hiss creating a less accurate and warped sound.
However, pretty much all modern music is recorded at 16 bit, 44.1khz, so even that vinyl created with the most modern techniques is still going to sound like a lossless digital rip upsampled to 96khz and that's just going to create additional noise.
Please, do me a favor and head over to Head-Fi forums and create a thread with your ridiculous claims and then post the thread here for good family fun.
[QUOTE=aydin690;46610286]lol what? I don't think you understand what you just said.[/QUOTE]
Most modern music producers now a days use digital recording methods. So when they release Vinyl, it's made from flac file or some other uncompressed audio format.
But there are still music producers who use tapes and non-digital formats when releasing vinyl albums.
Also, double blind tests using the best tube amps and headphones like Stax SR-009, Audeze LCD-3, Sennheiser HD 800 have shown that even people with trained ears can't hear the difference past the 20 bit, 48khz range.
If you like the noisy, inaccurate sound of vinyls, then keep buying them but please don't make ridiculous claims.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;46584975]hipsters[/QUOTE]
They are cooler and bigger than cd's. You can put them on your wall.
Source: I am Aphex Twin
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46610401]Most modern music producers now a days use digital recording methods. So [B]when they release Vinyl, it's made from flac file or some other uncompressed audio format.[/B]
But there are still music producers who use tapes and non-digital formats when releasing vinyl albums.[/QUOTE]
LOL... c'mon dude, at least try. So, that vinyl cannot be better than the digital source which is what i've been saying. Also, flac is a compression method and nobody is going to compress anything while producing. Furthermore, as a lossless compression method, it's going to have the same quality as the uncompressed source, ie 16 bit, 44.1khz. Uncompressed doesn't mean analog.
[QUOTE=Thy Reaper;46610020]Images made of pixels and digital audio recordings can be just as accurate as analog. Whatever device you use to record will have some amount of noise. So long as you record at least enough digital data to outpace the noise, the analog and digital recordings will be the same (though their noise will be different).[/QUOTE]
Oh good. There's one person here who understands information theory.
This overly-80's label has an option to buy the music on cassette tapes and sometimes vinyl. Shits cash.
[url]http://telefuturenow.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46609868][t]http://www.electronicproducts.com/uploadedImages/Digital_ICs/Video_Graphics_Audio/1.png[/t]
All digital formats compress audio into binary form. It gives you a more perfectly clean audio, but vinyls do have a smoother sound to them. It's just how computers work dude.[/QUOTE]
Except audio engineers aren't stupid enough to just ignore this for decades which is why the standard sampling rate is twice the range of human hearing. Vinyl has always been subject to bigger problems.
I DID say earlier in the thread that there are subjective reasons why some people enjoy vinyl more, but you can't argue that the quality is better.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;46610691]Except audio engineers aren't stupid enough to just ignore this for decades which is why the standard sampling rate is twice the range of human hearing. Vinyl has always been subject to bigger problems.
I DID say earlier in the thread that there are subjective reasons why some people enjoy vinyl more, but you can't argue that the quality is better.[/QUOTE]
I'm not arguing that :v: Digital sampling is much higher quality, as I've said before in this thread.
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