Smash Bros director apologizes in advance for cut characters
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[QUOTE=XSFOX;41144012]Also he said no to Customizable costumes.[/QUOTE]Did he say no to new costumes, or even bothering with costumes at all?
This is important to me. I rolled classic outfit Wario all day every day.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;41145299]Wolf and Falco should be skins for Fox, also get rid of ROB and [b]Lucas.[/b][/QUOTE]
[u][b]No.[/b][/u]
[QUOTE=Keychain;41146245]ZSS doesn't even take up a slot, I don't see why they'd remove her when she practically comes with Samus at this point. Another thing is due to how crazy strong Samus's final smash is, the transition from Samus to ZSS is sort of the downfall of using the final smash, since if she gets a final smash again, it won't be as effective this time. I really really don't want Samus to be able to snag every smash ball and then insta-gib the entire team with her near-unavoidable final smash.[/QUOTE]
ZSS is coming back, she was mentioned in one of the videos IIRC
[QUOTE=Pennywise;41146584]Did he say no to new costumes, or even bothering with costumes at all?
This is important to me. I rolled classic outfit Wario all day every day.[/QUOTE]
He said no Customizable costumes, this was in response to what the customization on the 3DS would allow.
Nothing about no new costumes or there being no costumes in Wario's case.
[editline]23rd June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trogdon;41146766]ZSS is coming back, she was mentioned in one of the videos IIRC[/QUOTE]
No she wasn't.
I'm pretty certain they won't get rid of her, but the slot arguments are pretty much missing the point, hiding behind another character doesn't mean they take less time to develop from any other separate character which is actually the issue. This goes triple for Pokemon Trainer.
They need to have some of the great nintendo bosses make a return.
The Golden Diva in warioland 4 for example.
[IMG]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110221000639/villains/images/d/d2/GoldenDiva.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Painseeker;41145765]I'm expecting Ike to be removed with his moveset going to Ganondorf (so he finally uses a damn sword) and Marth to be replaced by Chrom from FA: Awakening.[/QUOTE]
Ike better not go.
He had yelling "YYYOOOUUUUGGHGHHGDFG" while throwing his sword in to the air down to an absolute fucking art.
Sonic can go
Clones can be turned into alternate costumes.
[QUOTE=SHYoshi;41147814]Sonic can go[/QUOTE]
Fuck you you're too slow
if fox were to be cut by some miracle id swallow every single tear of the competitive scene with joy
Falco, Lucario, Toon Link, and Snake can hit the road.
it sounds like he's basically saying to not expect Dr Mario or Pichu
people saying they're going to cut people like Pokemon Trainer or Lucario are crazy.
[QUOTE=Maul Cop;41147915]Fuck you you're too slow[/QUOTE]
But he's literally just a hit&run character while being ludicrously fast.
he's also one of the most popular characters in brawl...
[QUOTE=SHYoshi;41147965]But he's literally just a hit&run character while being ludicrously fast.[/QUOTE]
Well if you just came on and stepped it up you could catch him.
[QUOTE=XSFO]
Also he said no to Customizable costumes.[/QUOTE]
That statement was a mistranslation, if you read the interview, he was referring costumes with slightly different moves.
Wolf and Falco feel like carbon copies of Fox with modified attributes. I wouldn't mind seeing Wolf and Falco replaced by Andross and Krystal (maybe with that staff thing she carried in SFA). Both of those characters would at least provide some variance to the otherwise monotonous Star Fox rooster.
[QUOTE=borisvdb;41147220]They need to have some of the great nintendo bosses make a return.
The Golden Diva in warioland 4 for example.
[IMG]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110221000639/villains/images/d/d2/GoldenDiva.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
What about that ugly mother fucking clown from WL3
they should get rid of all clones, except Luigi
They won't do this though, so at least for sure let there only be one Star Fox character for god please.
Also I want Lucario to be found dead in a gutter. How can you replace Mewtwo, the badass face of Pokemon, fan favorite, this is like the 2nd most loved Pokemon jesus.
Honestly, the one thing that they should cut is not characters.
The Custom Level designer was bland. Maybe they can pull it off in the new game, but :/
[QUOTE=SHYoshi;41147814]Sonic can go[/QUOTE]
I want Sonic to stay just because he's so iconic.
Having Mario, Sonic, and Megaman all at the same time I think is really cool just because they're not just "other Nintendo characters", they're main protagonists of HUGE franchises.
Lucario can go, Mewtwo with his new forms are probably going to be in it.
pokemon trainer may not be gone per say, just have different generation of pokemon.
If they do get rid of Lucas (which they really fucking shouldn't, if you think he's not a unique character you've obviously never really played as him) it should be to make way for Jeff. Mother deserves two characters.
Also, just get rid of Toon Link and speed Link up a bit. Everyone likes the Wind Waker, but he just isn't necessary.
[QUOTE=AzureAngelic;41146178]PREDICTION TIME
MOST LIKELY not to return:
Snake (barely even counts as a Nintendo character, MGS5 not on Wii U, only made it in Brawl because Kojima basically sucked Sakurai's dick verbally, would be nice to keep but unlikely IMHO)
Toon Link (in background of Spirit Tracks stage, semi-redundant Link clone, either he's reworked to be unique and use different items or he's cut to make space for newcomers)
Overall predictions: Toon Link, Snake, Wolf, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario and MAYBE R.O.B. are out[/QUOTE]
why would they get rid of toon link if they are making wind waker on the wiiu?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;41149177]
Also I want Lucario to be found dead in a gutter. How can you replace Mewtwo, the badass face of Pokemon, fan favorite, this is like the 2nd most loved Pokemon jesus.[/QUOTE]
What's the first most loved pokemon jesus?
[QUOTE=proch;41149838]What's the first most loved pokemon jesus?[/QUOTE]
Probably pikachu jesus.
In all seriousness pikachu is #1 because he is kinda the mascott of the franchise.
[QUOTE=SHYoshi;41147965]But he's literally just a hit&run character while being ludicrously fast.[/QUOTE]
But that's what sonic has always done in any of his games -.-
I hope snake and sonic stay.
I kinda want Lucas replaced...
Maybe with someone from MOTHER 1. Like [URL="http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Teddy"]Teddy[/URL].
Something to also note, Someone apparently told Sakurai to get 3 characters into Smash 4 (Isaac, Geno, and Megaman) Sakurai replied to his tweet with "2 out of 3" and apparently deleted the tweet afterwards. If this is anything to go by, expect Isaac. since Megaman was already confirmed.
Ike is most likely getting replaced. Roy existed as a promotion for the new Fire Emblem game coming out at the time. So was Ike, but Ike was Japan's least favorite FE protagonist. In one of the Smash polls in Japan, [URL="http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Gaius"]Gaius[/URL] was more popular than [URL="http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Chrom"]Chrom[/URL] (Scoring in the top 10 versus Chrom's 14th spot.) I kind of want to see Marth getting replaced by Lucina and given a move that transforms her into "Marth" ala Zelda/Shiek, but it's probably really redundant as nothing would really change since they both use swords, plus, Marth's the flagship character of the series. Fire Emblem doesn't have any Mage characters representing the series in any of the Smash games, so I kind of feel that [URL="http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Tharja"]Tharja[/URL] or [URL="http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Miriel"]Miriel[/URL] would be good characters to add, or if they want to go with some of the older mages, [URL="http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Lewyn"]Lewyn[/URL].
In terms of Kirby, we've already got a ton of characters for that and whether or not any characters are removed or added would be odd. I know Sakurai has an attachment to the series considering he's one of the creators and he didn't want the series to be over-represented in Melee.
Mario's fine and there's not really much to add from that series.
Star Fox needs a LOT of work. While each character from that series has their own strengths/weaknesses, it's ridiculous that all three had the same Final Smashes. Krystal replacing someone is fine. It'll most likely be Wolf (Which is kind of sad because I liked him.) But whoever remains of the two needs to be reworked. Badly.
I'm not sure what could be done with Metroid, though...We've already had the issue of Ridley being "too big" and since the other creatures in Metroid are also too big, the only candidates are people from Prime 3, Hunters, or Other M.
Donkey Kong could use one more character. [URL="http://www.mariowiki.com/Dixie_Kong"]Dixie[/URL] or [URL="http://www.mariowiki.com/Tiny_Kong"]Tiny[/URL]? I don't feel like Diddy should be removed. He was a solid character.
Pokemon is fine with it's characters. The new [URL="http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/f/fd/Mewtwo_New_Form.jpg"]Mewtwo form[/URL] will probably replace Lucario.
F-Zero could also use one more character. Everyone wants [URL="http://fzero.wikia.com/wiki/Samurai_Goroh"]Goroh[/URL] and there's not many other people who could fit. I feel [URL="http://fzero.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_Falcon"]Black Shadow[/URL] seems like he'd play very similarly, and we already have Ganondorf being the Captain Falcon clone, and [URL="http://fzero.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_Falcon"]Blood Falcon[/URL] exists through a color variation of Captain Falcon's outfit.
In terms of Kid Icarus, the popularity polls wanted [URL="http://kidicarus.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Pit"]Dark Pit[/URL] in the game. Dunno about [URL="http://www.kidicaruswiki.org/Palutena"]Palutena[/URL], and I haven't played the new Kid Icarus so I don't know of any of the other characters in the game.
In terms of very obscure, classic Nintendo characters, We already have ROB and Ice Climbers. The [URL="http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Balloon_Fight"]Balloon Fighter[/URL] was planned to be in Melee, but was cut and the Villager has a recovery move very similar to Balloon Fighter's movements in Balloon Fight. Mr. Game & Watch has a lot of moves that some of the older Characters had, like [URL="http://www.mariowiki.com/Stanley_the_Bugman"]Stanley the Bugman[/URL]'s bugspray, and then there's not much more they could add there. [URL="http://www.mariowiki.com/Bubbles_(Clu_Clu_Land)"]Bubbles[/URL] was also supposed to be in Melee. Pit was supposed to be in Smash 64 up until his redesign came with Brawl. [URL="http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Sheriff_(character)"]Sheriff[/URL] would be cool but also an odd choice. Some people want [URL="http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Mike_Jones"]Mike Jones[/URL] included, but it's unlikely as Startropics never came out in Japan. (Making Startropics the equivalent to MOTHER.) [URL="http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Takamaru"]Takamaru[/URL] would also be good addition but there's a ton of people with swords already...But with Takamaru's Ninja Castle being in Nintendo Land, and with The Mysterious Murasame Castle (the game he comes from) being rated in Australia for a possible re-release in places other than Japan, it could happen.
Zelda is in the same boat as Mario and has enough characters. None really need to be removed.
Wario...this one's iffy, because Wario could be considered a representative for the Mario series, but what characters from any of the Wario games could be used? [URL="http://www.mariowiki.com/Captain_Syrup"]Captain Syrup[/URL]? Most of the Warioware characters don't seem like they'd be good fighters and Wario actually fights against Captain Syrup.
If Golden Sun is represented (because a tweet that was apparently deleted doesn't confirm anything) then Isaac is an obvious choice right there.
Some of these series did get representatives in the form of Assist Trophies in Brawl, so most likely we'll see more of those, as not all of Nintendo's series can have a playable representative. If both versions of the game don't have the same character rosters, they'll probably choose characters who appears on handhelds to be in the 3DS version and characters who appeared on consoles to be in the Wii U version, similarly to how they're setting up the stages.
Would be nice to have ganon be an actual character instead of a cpt.falcon clone.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;41150791]Would be nice to have ganon be an actual character instead of a cpt.falcon clone.[/QUOTE]
Would much rather him use his huge sword in exchange for slow attacks.
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