• Bungie confirms Destiny player progression will carry over to sequel
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[QUOTE=draugur;46684912]Oh shit guys the Destiny fanboy/Bungie apologist crew arrived. Time to pack up our valid criticism and bow down to pray to based Bungie. They made Halo you know, they're above our plebian criticism.[/QUOTE] Yeah Destiny has flaws, but it's not a bad game or the antichrist like some would believe
Destiny has flaws like shit characters and a non existent storyline and the fact that it has about 2 maps and 4 different kinds of enemy.
[QUOTE=General J;46682071]Destiny 2? Already? lol AAA has no shame[/QUOTE] It's no surprise that they signed a 10 year contract. [QUOTE=megafat;46682151]Wasn't Destiny supposed to have 10 years worth of DLC?[/QUOTE] 10 year deal doesn't mean one game is going to be supported for ten years. That'd be insanity.
Hopefully the people who bought the first won't foolish enough to buy the next. These companies need to learn the hard way not to rip off the consumers.
[QUOTE=The Pretender;46694424]Hopefully the people who bought the first won't foolish enough to buy the next. These companies need to learn the hard way not to rip off the consumers.[/QUOTE] I actually enjoyed Destiny, it may not be to some people's taste but it does have a fanbase even though the game was overhyped. Just give Bungie another chance when the next game gets officially announced, I think they've learnt and will take people's problems into account.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;46693414]Destiny has flaws like shit characters and a non existent storyline and the fact that it has about 2 maps and 4 different kinds of enemy.[/QUOTE] The story is there its just a bit disconnected due to how the game is made
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46695593]I could tell you of the great battle centuries ago, how the Traveler was crippled. I could tell you of the power of The Darkness, its ancient enemy. However I will not because I was written in 5 minutes by a 10 year old apparently.[/QUOTE] Actually you could look that up in the lore since you know that doesnt have anything to do with the story in the game. Before you refer to the line about not having enough time to even explain whats going on all of that is explained in the next cutscene. Before you go on about how what I quoted you about is important to the story the first cutscene in the game establishes everything you need to know about the traveler and what it does. Everything else is explained in dialogue or grimoire pages
I don't like this idea of keeping your character over the course of several games. It is totally fine with expansion packs and dlc but I would rather prefer to start a new character from scratch to have that same early game feeling.
[QUOTE=junker154;46696272]I don't like this idea of keeping your character over the course of several games. It is totally fine with expansion packs and dlc but I would rather prefer to start a new character from scratch to have that same early game feeling.[/QUOTE] Who knows, maybe there's benefits or an alternative higher difficulty for transfers so that there's a reason to do it and not just breaking a game with a pre-existing character. That, or the games will start you off at higher levels as the trilogy goes along, meaning there's a point to transfers.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46696162]Actually you could look that up in the lore since you know that doesnt have anything to do with the story in the game. Before you refer to the line about not having enough time to even explain whats going on all of that is explained in the next cutscene. Before you go on about how what I quoted you about is important to the story the first cutscene in the game establishes everything you need to know about the traveler and what it does. Everything else is explained in dialogue or grimoire pages[/QUOTE] It's not explained to a degree [I]anywhere [/I]near satisfying.
[QUOTE=junker154;46696272]I don't like this idea of keeping your character over the course of several games. It is totally fine with expansion packs and dlc but I would rather prefer to start a new character from scratch to have that same early game feeling.[/QUOTE] Uh ok then make a new character? What's stopping you? [QUOTE=Skyward;46697786]It's not explained to a degree [I]anywhere [/I]near satisfying.[/QUOTE] Well that's an opinion but the dude was complaining that nothing was explained.
There is hardly any story in the game. To even begin to understand the lore you have to Bungie's site and read the stupid cards. I bought the game to play through the story, not earn cards to read on a website outside of the game while being told very little about what I'm going to all these planets shooting everything in sight.
[QUOTE=Makol;46697997]There is hardly any story in the game. To even begin to understand the lore you have to Bungie's site and read the stupid cards. I bought the game to play through the story, not earn cards to read on a website outside of the game while being told very little about what I'm going to all these planets shooting everything in sight.[/QUOTE] Actually you don't need to read the grimoire cards at all. What you you find out in the story is that Humans were pushed back to their last city. Traveler uplifted us. You're trying to find and help an AI named Rasputin that has been protecting Humanity for centuries. While this is going on the Fallen are stealing stuff on Earth, the Hive are trying to resurrect their dead leader and invade Earth. The Vex are doing something that's killing the traveler and you need to stop that and the Cabal are planning something that Rasputin is trying to put an end to.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46698092]Actually you don't need to read the grimoire cards at all. What you you find out in the story is that Humans were pushed back to their last city. Traveler uplifted us. You're trying to find and help an AI named Rasputin that has been protecting Humanity for centuries. While this is going on the Fallen are stealing stuff on Earth, the Hive are trying to resurrect their dead leader and invade Earth. The Vex are doing something that's killing the traveler and you need to stop that and the Cabal are planning something that Rasputin is trying to put an end to.[/QUOTE] Yeah never got any of that from playing the story. All I understood is that the everyone but the Humans and the Traveler are bad, there's some blue queen with a very clingy brother, and they helped us kill Vex big bad thing. They still could have done a better job explaining things, and not reuse old areas for the DLC missions. The whole no time to explain thing and giving us little to no info on the the robot lady was are completely dumb and are missed opportunities. The Queen, her brother, and the robot lady could have been interesting characters but they completely dropped the ball on that which is some I did not expect from Bungie. As a Bungie game Destiny is a bit of a mess when it comes to the story. The Crucible is pretty darn good, but the strikes and other PvE content are fairly weak. I have yet to try the raid, but thanks to Reddit I may finally be able to try it out this weekend. The DLC was a tiny bit better at explaining at what I was doing but left a lot to be desired since the missions were so short and there's only three of them. [editline]12th December 2014[/editline] Oh, and the Speaker. I still don't know what his deal is. Is he like the only person who can speak with the Traveler? And if he is, WHY?
[QUOTE=Makol;46698107]Yeah never got any of that from playing the story. All I understood is that the everyone but the Humans and the Traveler are bad, there's some blue queen with a very clingy brother, and they helped us kill Vex big bad thing. They still could have done a better job explaining things, and not reuse old areas for the DLC missions. The whole no time to explain thing and giving us little to no info on the the robot lady was are completely dumb and are missed opportunities. The Queen, her brother, and the robot lady could have been interesting characters but they completely dropped the ball on that which is some I did not expect from Bungie. As a Bungie game Destiny is a bit of a mess when it comes to the story. The Crucible is pretty darn good, but the strikes and other PvE content are fairly weak. I have yet to try the raid, but thanks to Reddit I may finally be able to try it out this weekend. The DLC was a tiny bit better at explaining at what I was doing but left a lot to be desired since the missions were so short and there's only three of them. [editline]12th December 2014[/editline] Oh, and the Speaker. I still don't know what his deal is. Is he like the only person who can speak with the Traveler? And if he is, WHY?[/QUOTE] The Queen stuff is getting more of an explanation in the next expansion. As I said before the story is a bit hard to follow due to the mission structure but just because you missed it doesn't mean it's not there. And you couldn't piece together that The Speaker is the leader of everyone? The Exo girl you meet is probably going to show up in the Expansion more or in the next game. [sp]Grimoire cards explain stuff like the Exo girl you meet being a time traveler, the Traveler being a Vex creation and being dead, all that jazz. They also explain why everything has simple names like The Darkness and The Traveler. Their meant to fill you in on the backaround of the game if you're really interested.[/sp]
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46698165] And you couldn't piece together that The Speaker is the leader of everyone? The Exo girl you meet is probably going to show up in the Expansion more or in the next game. [sp]Grimoire cards explain stuff like the Exo girl you meet being a time traveler, the Traveler being a Vex creation and being dead, all that jazz. They also explain why everything has simple names like The Darkness and The Traveler. Their meant to fill you in on the backaround of the game if you're really interested.[/sp] [/QUOTE] I didn't say that. It's pretty obvious he's the leader. I was questioning why is he the leader and why is he the only one who can speak the Traveler. If I'm the one doing all this stuff why doesn't the Traveler talk to me and be the one telling me what to along with the Speaker. As for the Exo girl.. I shouldn't have to read cards collected in the game to understand who she is, and those card definitely should not be on an external website. If I could access them in the game that would be a lot better. If she is part of future DLC then she should have been saved for that then being tossed in the main game with very little background given to us in the game.
[QUOTE=Makol;46698183]I didn't say that. It's pretty obvious he's the leader. I was questioning why is he the leader and why is he the only one who can speak the Traveler. If I'm the one doing all this stuff why doesn't the Traveler talk to me and be the one telling me what to along with the Speaker. As for the Exo girl.. I shouldn't have to read cards collected in the game to understand who she is, and those card definitely should not be on an external website. If I could access them in the game that would be a lot better. If she is part of future DLC then she should have been saved for that then being tossed in the main game with very little background given to us in the game.[/QUOTE] The Exo girl is suppose to serve as a sort of guide for certain events in the game. Not everything needs to be explained. Remember in Halo how one of the major races was never explained? You only knew how they died and why? [sp]343i shit doesn't count[/sp] It's good to have a bit of mystery and that's why the grimoire cards are there for if you really have to know. I agree they should have been in game (in fact I think they were suppose to until a management shift) but they always said in Vidocs and at conferences that they would be on the Destiny app or on the website.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46698211]The Exo girl is suppose to serve as a sort of guide for certain events in the game. Not everything needs to be explained. Remember in Halo how one of the major races was never explained? You only knew how they died and why? [sp]343i shit doesn't count[/sp] It's good to have a bit of mystery and that's why the grimoire cards are there for if you really have to know. I agree they should have been in game (in fact I think they were suppose to until a management shift) but they always said in Vidocs and at conferences that they would be on the Destiny app or on the website.[/QUOTE] I assumed they died because of the Flood. Made sense to me at the time. I mean they're dead, there's the Halo rings, and there is the Flood. The Flood came killed shit, the Forerunners made the Halos to kill the Flood, didn't work and here we are fighting the Aliens attacking Human colonies as they do their religious stuff which leads us to stumbling upon the rings and the flood. That's all in the game and makes some sense as you played the series. Halo:CE did a good job of setting up the story and Destiny isn't doing that.
[QUOTE=Makol;46698234]I assumed they died because of the Flood. Made sense to me at the time. I mean they're dead, there's the Halo rings, and there is the Flood. The Flood came killed shit, the Forerunners made the Halos to kill the Flood, didn't work and here we are fighting the Aliens attacking Human colonies as they do their religious stuff.[/QUOTE] Yeah that's what I was talking about. But you don't know anything more then that because that's all that was needed for the plot.
Because Halo 1 through 3 were good games. Halo 4 wasn't all that great when it comes to the campaign, but I liked the multiplayer. Halo set everything up for you in the game. Destiny did not do that very well in comparison. Like you said, Destiny's missions structure is a bit wonky which makes it hard to follow. Halo was well put together. I understand Bungie wanted to make a social shooter but they seem to have done that not all that well. If they did something like a mission playlist with matchmaking and custom coop lobbies with an open world sections for the planets that unlock as you completed the campaign it would have been easier to follow, but there could have been some issue with doing that since they didn't go with that option. [editline]12th December 2014[/editline] I'm hoping Bungie sees what was wrong with Destiny and address that in the sequel. The online only thing bugs me a bit, but I can see why it was made that way. Destiny is an okay game, it could have been great but it fell short. For this generation it's probably my most played game along with Super Mario 3D World and Windwaker HD.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46698165][sp]Grimoire cards explain stuff like the Exo girl you meet being a time traveler, the Traveler being a Vex creation and being dead, all that jazz. They also explain why everything has simple names like The Darkness and The Traveler. Their meant to fill you in on the backaround of the game if you're really interested.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Actually inspecting her gun would tell you flat out she's a time traveler. Although don't recall the Traveler being a Vex creation, gonna need source on that.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Vipes;46699341][sp]Actually inspecting her gun would tell you flat out she's a time traveler. Although don't recall the Traveler being a Vex creation, gonna need source on that.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]If you do enough digging in the Vex cards it hints towards it and some Vex look like they came from the same cloth as the Traveler[/sp] [QUOTE=RichyZ;46699375]id really love to have the story of a videogame to be integrated with the actual game, rather than giving me a note of whats going on and directing me to BUNGIE.NET FOR ALL THE LATEST UPDATES to figure out the story for myself[/QUOTE] I'd really love for you to pay attention to the game rather then whine about it Lore =/= Story
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46698254]Yeah that's what I was talking about. But you don't know anything more then that because that's all that was needed for the plot.[/QUOTE] The difference being, in the Halo universe, the Forerunner are like a long lost legend that no one alive really knows anything about. Were as in Destiny you have all these races that are living and breathing inside the universe right now and we still don't know almost anything about them.
[QUOTE=Rastadogg;46710901]The difference being, in the Halo universe, the Forerunner are like a long lost legend that no one alive really knows anything about. Were as in Destiny you have all these races that are living and breathing inside the universe right now and we still don't know almost anything about them.[/QUOTE] Yeah that's kind of the point. You only know what their doing.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;46697921]Uh ok then make a new character? What's stopping you?[/QUOTE] Creating a new character in Destiny is quite easy but the amount of time and effort you have to put into one is quite ridiculous, due to the nature of the game you will need to grind a lot. At least with your first character you might share some gear to kickstart you at level 20 but still the game drags on after that point. What I don't like about having one character is that you will never replay this feeling of getting better gear, knowing that you started out with weak equipment and got progressively stronger. This is an very important aspect of any rpg or even game. Progressively improving your character. The issue is that the game already has some pretty great high end gear, you gain tons of benefits and whatnot. So if they want you to use the same character, they will need to set new standards and you can only go so far until it just gets ridiculous or outright boring. At some point the progress seems pointless. I like the concept of having one character set among several games but I don't know if it's the best for Destiny. The rpg elements itself are so bare bones and I don't see any point in having the same character, he's a blank slate.
Destiny 2 will somehow still be set on the old planet maps
There actually was a full on story for Destiny, but it was yanked during development. Some of it involved the Queen's brother being a more integral character to the story, and a twist involving the Traveler.
[QUOTE=backfoggen;46720609]Destiny 2 will somehow still be set on the old planet maps[/QUOTE] It'll probably also have new maps as well. Since you know Earth is more then just Russia
Already destiny 2 in the works? Fucking seriously? Destiny was released in september. [editline]15th December 2014[/editline] I was at the midnight release for it... to pick up NHL15. All my friends picked up Destiny
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46722108]Already destiny 2 in the works? Fucking seriously? Destiny was released in september. [editline]15th December 2014[/editline] I was at the midnight release for it... to pick up NHL15. All my friends picked up Destiny[/QUOTE] Well, it would be far more preferable for the developers and companies just idle in the office and do nothing.
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