EA want "to get back in your good graces" with free PC game to make up for SimCity server debacle
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[QUOTE=Atlascore;39851840]Okay.
I honestly don't see the problem with the DLC BF3 got, it actually added things to the game, new maps, weapons, vehicles, features, and a bunch of other stuff, some if it was actually worth the price, meanwhile COD releases $15 reskinned map packs and no one cares anymore.
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Oh, that's understandable I guess, sorry I thought you were another one of those bandwagon people that blindly hate on EA because they released DLC.[/QUOTE]
For me it's still un-fucking-acceptable to DESIGN 4 DLCs. You don't do that, that's money-grubbing.
If you do an expansion or a DLC, you think of everything you could add and then you ADD everything you can add. Then you do it again.
What they did was design 4 separate DLCs, which isn't bad if they're A: really cheap or B: free, but these are neither. Then they had the balls to call premium a good deal.
It's not.
It's so, so not.
[QUOTE=I am Error;39852224]For me it's still un-fucking-acceptable to DESIGN 4 DLCs. You don't do that, that's money-grubbing.
If you do an expansion or a DLC, you think of everything you could add and then you ADD everything you can add. Then you do it again.
What they did was design 4 separate DLCs, which isn't bad if they're A: really cheap or B: free, but these are neither. Then they had the balls to call premium a good deal.
It's not.
It's so, so not.[/QUOTE]
To be fair
Battlefield 2 cost $50 on release. All of it's ex packs and booster packs combine cost about $50 if you were to buy them all on release. Battlefield 3 is any more expensive than Battlefield 2 was if you were to buy Premium.
[QUOTE=I am Error;39852224]For me it's still un-fucking-acceptable to DESIGN 4 DLCs. You don't do that, that's money-grubbing.
If you do an expansion or a DLC, you think of everything you could add and then you ADD everything you can add. Then you do it again.
What they did was design 4 separate DLCs, which isn't bad if they're A: really cheap or B: free, but these are neither. Then they had the balls to call premium a good deal.
It's not.
It's so, so not.[/QUOTE]
What is the development team supposed to do when the game's nearly done? Sit around for a few months until the game comes out? No, they're going to work on more content for their game and stay busy. Every. Development. Team. Does. This (exceptions being small indie teams with only a handful of employees)
Contrary to popular belief, extra content that is developed before release isn't "purposely cut out of the game."
[QUOTE=TheTalon;39851731]You can't bribe your way into good graces. You have to earn it EA, and you can start by putting the customer first, rather than your all-controlling greed[/QUOTE]Bribing? Seriously? Wow, you'd bitch if they did nothing yet they're giving us a free game to compensate for the terrible launch and you still complain lol how sad
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[QUOTE=I am Error;39852224]For me it's still un-fucking-acceptable to DESIGN 4 DLCs. You don't do that, that's money-grubbing.
If you do an expansion or a DLC, you think of everything you could add and then you ADD everything you can add. Then you do it again.
What they did was design 4 separate DLCs, which isn't bad if they're A: really cheap or B: free, but these are neither. Then they had the balls to call premium a good deal.
It's not.
It's so, so not.[/QUOTE]Its now money-grubbing when you try to provide fans with extra content, seriously you people always find something to bitch and whine about, it's incredible
[QUOTE=Killer900;39852384]Bribing? Seriously? Wow, you'd bitch if they did nothing yet they're giving us a free game to compensate for the terrible launch and you still complain lol how sad
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Yeah, Bribing. "We screwed you over (Again), it's our fault, we want you to continue using our services that consistently inconvenience you, the paying customer, so here's a coupon to get a piece of digital, not physical, content that really costs us nothing to give away now, that came out some time ago"
Bribing. I don't see it as being any different than giving companies money for favorable reviews
[QUOTE=TheTalon;39852542]Yeah, Bribing. "We screwed you over (Again), it's our fault, we want you to continue using our services that consistently inconvenience you, the paying customer, [b]so here's a coupon to get a piece of digital, not physical,[/b]content that really costs us nothing to give away now, that came out some time ago"
Bribing. I don't see it as being any different than giving companies money for favorable reviews[/QUOTE]
What the fuck does this even matter?
Oh right, if something's digital that means it automatically has a lot less value because it doesn't cost anything to deliver to you. I guess that makes my Steam account a virtual paperweight, right?
Free copy of SimCity 5.
For yourself... which you can't gift.
"Sorry we fucked up, here, have an Origin game for fre- What do you mean you can't log onto the Origin servers?
...Would you accept an IOU?"
They want to "get back on my good grades"? So they're ditching the retarded DRM, day 1 DLC and microtransactions?
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[QUOTE=milkandcooki;39852569]What the fuck does this even matter?
Oh right, if something's digital that means it automatically has a lot less value because it doesn't cost anything to deliver to you. I guess that makes my Steam account a virtual paperweight, right?[/QUOTE]
So the value of an item is equal to the cost of delivering it? How does that even make sense? Where did you pull this out from? That's not what he said. They have games that you're not going to buy because if you were going to buy them you would have already. So they are giving you something that they won't get any money from anyway, and the delivery cost is equal to 0.
[QUOTE=Konork;39851146]They are a corporation out to make money, not cause pain and suffering. They're greedy and incompetent in some/a lot of areas, but not evil[/QUOTE]
It's pretty hard to define evil really, it's all a matter of perspective.
I don't know, I played the whole day yesterday and it was really fun. Free games are cool, I guess.
[QUOTE=elowin;39852757]It's pretty hard to define evil really, it's all a matter of perspective.[/QUOTE]
Actually it's really easy to define evil.
If you think a [I]video game publisher[/I] is evil you are dumb and wrong.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;39852884]Actually it's really easy to define evil.
If you think a [I]video game publisher[/I] is evil you are dumb and wrong.[/QUOTE]
I think we already established people were way too mad about EA when it won 'worst company' over Bank of America and Wal-mart.
Would've been nicer if they released the deluxe edition city sets for free to people. Unless you get to choose a game yourself from Origin. (Within reason)
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;39852986]Would've been nicer if they released the deluxe edition city sets for free to people. Unless you get to choose a game yourself from Origin. (Within reason)[/QUOTE]
Then you'd have the people who bought the Deluxe Edition complaining. Giving away a free game is the safe route I guess.
[QUOTE=areolop;39851185]tough shite
[img]http://i.imgur.com/huzoAh1.png[/img][/QUOTE]
If you're in the EU this doesn't apply. EU regulation > EA policy
[QUOTE=Clavus;39853286]Then you'd have the people who bought the Deluxe Edition complaining. Giving away a free game is the safe route I guess.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I thought of that but they could give the next three dlc packs to them for free instead. Or the other way around.
can i get a free copy of simcity that doesnt unlock on the 14th because i dont want to wait anymore to blow up my friends with meteors
Can I choose SimCity Deluxe Version?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;39852884]Actually it's really easy to define evil.
If you think a [I]video game publisher[/I] is evil you are dumb and wrong.[/QUOTE]
Every villain is lemons
[QUOTE=demoguy08;39853357]If you're in the EU this doesn't apply. EU regulation > EA policy[/QUOTE]
If you pre-purchased, you're SOL since you bought it more than 7 days ago.
Got a real question, don't mean to attack anybody or get in a pissy argument.
Lots of you Eurodudes say that ToS's are "worthless." Why so? Besides not being able to hold up in court, what's the point of even having them if nobody reads them, and nobody will care about them?
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[QUOTE=demoguy08;39853357]If you're in the EU this doesn't apply. EU regulation > EA policy[/QUOTE]
[quote]Subject to the following paragraph, there are no refunds for products or services purchased on our Websites.
If you reside in the European Union and you purchase a product or service on one of our Websites, you have the right to withdraw from your purchase within fourteen calendar days, commencing on the day after the date of purchase (the "[B]Cooling Off Period"). If you reside in countries other than Germany you will lose your right of withdrawal if you start downloading your product, or if you remove or unseal the shrink-wrap packaging from your physical product, or if the performance of our services has begun, before the end of the Cooling Off Period.
If you reside in Germany, the following applies: the Cooling Off Period does not start before you receive your purchase confirmation email, and if you purchase a physical product, not before you received the purchased physical product. If you purchase a service and expressly consent to the service commencing, you will lose your right of withdrawal once both parties' obligations are fulfilled before the end of the Cooling Off Period. If you purchased a physical product, you will lose your right of withdrawal if you remove or unseal the shrink-wrap packaging from your physical product.
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According to section 7 of the ToS, I think they're honoring that shit
unless your digital copy has digital shrinkwrap or something
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;39856102]Got a real question, don't mean to attack anybody or get in a pissy argument.
Lots of you Eurodudes say that ToS's are "worthless." Why so? Besides not being able to hold up in court, what's the point of even having them if nobody reads them, and nobody will care about them?
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According to section 7 of the ToS, I think they're honoring that shit
unless your digital copy has digital shrinkwrap or something[/QUOTE]
[url]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-11-675_en.htm[/url]
And let me quote the juicy bit:
[QUOTE]4) 14 Days to change your mind on a purchase
The period under which consumers can withdraw from a sales contract is extended to 14 calendar days (compared to seven days legally prescribed by EU law today). This means that consumers can return the goods for whatever reason if they change their minds.
Extra protection for lack of information: When a seller hasn’t clearly informed the customer about the withdrawal right, the return period will be extended to a year.
Consumers will also be protected and enjoy a right of withdrawal for solicited visits, such as when a trader called beforehand and pressed the consumer to agree to a visit. In addition, a distinction no longer needs to be made between solicited and unsolicited visits; circumvention of the rules will thus be prevented.
The right of withdrawal is extended to online auctions, such as eBay – though goods bought in auctions can only be returned when bought from a professional seller.
The withdrawal period will start from the moment the consumer receives the goods, rather than at the time of conclusion of the contract, which is currently the case. The rules will apply to internet, phone and mail order sales, as well as to sales outside shops, for example on the consumer's doorstep, in the street, at a Tupperware party or during an excursion organised by the trader.
5) Better refund rights
Traders must refund consumers for the product within 14 days of the withdrawal. This includes the costs of delivery. In general, the trader will bear the risk for any damage to goods during transportation, until the consumer takes possession of the goods
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[img]http://puu.sh/2ePkB[/img]
[QUOTE=GameDev;39857104][img]http://puu.sh/2ePkB[/img][/QUOTE]
silly EA, I havent trusted you for quite some time
[QUOTE=for no reason;39857154]silly EA, I havent trusted you for quite some time[/QUOTE]I think that's Maxis.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;39856102]Got a real question, don't mean to attack anybody or get in a pissy argument.
Lots of you Eurodudes say that ToS's are "worthless." Why so? Besides not being able to hold up in court, what's the point of even having them if nobody reads them, and nobody will care about them?[/QUOTE]Time saving safety net. They're there for the same reason that commercials sometimes have fine print at the bottom about something obvious like cars not being able to fly, or how hairdryers have stickers which say "We're not liable if you use this while still in the bathtub you paint-eating neanderthal".
It's less of something that should stand up in court on its own than a list of things that have [i]already[/i] stood up in court, and should be referred to in repeat instances. Like a Wikipedia page it's more of an ease-of-access deal; often filled with lots of potentially useful information, but of no tangible worth on it's own and occasionally containing bits where someone is just making shit up while hoping that no one notices.
[QUOTE=Unimaginative;39851192]Seriously. Origin is not shit in the slightest. It uses far less resources than steam and downloads much faster (for me at least). They also have sales, going up to (usually) 75% off, just like your beloved steam.
Steam having a monopoly is bad. Origin is legitimate competition and is a decent service. May I remind you that when HL2 was launched steam went down for quite some time (for a day+ if I remember right). Also Valve did not compensate people for this.
This is Origins first major strain since BF3, and is much more strenuous than BF3 due to how it operates.
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steam does the same, and will only refund in cases like The War Z.[/QUOTE]
not sure if troll, or about 11 years old..
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