• The 15 Best Indie Games on PC
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[QUOTE=Jbenson;47474483]This was probably the most divisive list in the office. There are so many games we all wanted to make the cut - Endless Legend, Prison Architect, Cave Story, Super Meat Boy, and Binding of Isaac to name a few. I'd be really interested to see what games you guys would have added (and which games you would have taken off to include them in the top 15).[/QUOTE] So you choose Gone Home over all of those?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47474434]Gone homo wasn't a good game. The story was bad and gameplay nonexistent.[/QUOTE] Honestly, I'm not sure Gone homo deserves the flak. It just was placed in the limelight from forces outside of gaming and players hate that. The fact one of the characters is lesbian and the gameplay is a glorified walking simulator made ad hominem insults easy ("haha, you're a ginger" kind of insult). If it were released without the artificial publicity, it would likely be somewhat like a lesser Dear Esther and Ethan Carter (haven't played those games either) simply because it is short in comparison. I think I might still have a slight bias against Gone Homo but if I played it, I'd probably treat it like an empty Half-life 2/Gmod RP map(like maps made by Oskutin and F. Kalkman). Full of interesting scenery with a whole lot of nothing to do. The fun lies in the exploration. Like exploration, once you know where's every is, it becomes boring real quick.
[QUOTE=Mastermind of42;47484348]Honestly, I'm not sure Gone homo deserves the flak. It just was placed in the limelight from forces outside of gaming and players hate that. The fact one of the characters is lesbian and the gameplay is a glorified walking simulator made ad hominem insults easy ("haha, you're a ginger" kind of insult). If it were released without the artificial publicity, it would likely be somewhat like a lesser Dear Esther and Ethan Carter (haven't played those games either) simply because it is short in comparison. I think I might still have a slight bias against Gone Homo but if I played it, I'd probably treat it like an empty Half-life 2/Gmod RP map(like maps made by Oskutin and F. Kalkman). Full of interesting scenery with a whole lot of nothing to do. The fun lies in the exploration but once you know where's every is, it becomes boring real quick.[/QUOTE] Gone Home was hailed like the second coming of Christ. It got 9s and 10s all over the gaming press.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47484358]Gone Home was hailed like the second coming of Christ. It got 9s and 10s all over the gaming press.[/QUOTE] For the wrong reasons, I agree. It is still a subpar game but it can't be absolute shit relative to other games.
[QUOTE=Mastermind of42;47484373]For the wrong reasons, I agree. It is still a subpar game but it can't be absolute shit relative to other games.[/QUOTE] I'm just pointing out the reason it recieves all the hate.
[QUOTE=chuz;47474872]People seem to judge Gone Home on what it wasn't rather than what it was. It wasn't supposed to have thrilling gameplay, or a [B]Nolanesque [/B]plot. What it was was a very human story, told in a unique way. If it didn't click with you, I'm sorry.[/QUOTE] Are you suggesting that the Nolan brothers are good writers
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47474956]The goal of the game was to be boring? I guess it succeeded then.[/QUOTE] Well, it is basically a visual novel. Gameplay is not something they're focused on. I can say that civilization simulators are boring, but one man's trash is another man's treasure, so I don't go bashing games because I personally didn't like it. That said, a good "visual novel" type of game, I thought, was To The Moon. I thought the story that it was trying to tell was pretty good. Even if I don't have an interest in playing Gone Home, a lot of the office at PCGamesN must've liked the game to have included it in this list (unless someone paid them to include it, but I'm not accusing them of anything). The whole thing is just one big opinion piece. If they honestly enjoyed the games they put on this list, that's good enough for me.
no Supergiant games, gtfo
[QUOTE=coyote93;47490131]Hmm, i'm pretty sure Mount & Blade counts as an indie game. That game sure as hell belongs in a top 10 contest.[/QUOTE] Someone who considers "Gone Home" to be one of the top 15 indie games on PC but doesn't even put M&B Warband, Distance, or Planet Explorers (and Path of Exile/Trine depending on whether you consider 10-20 people with no major publisher indie) on the list wrote and submitted this article. How that person managed the basic motor functions to write and submit said article is beyond me :v: [sp]also I can't be sure because I haven't played it but from gameplay footage on youtube that vvvv game just looks like a knockoff of a thousand flash games I've played before[/sp]
[QUOTE=Octopod;47487545]Well, it is basically a visual novel. Gameplay is not something they're focused on. I can say that civilization simulators are boring, but one man's trash is another man's treasure, so I don't go bashing games because I personally didn't like it. That said, a good "visual novel" type of game, I thought, was To The Moon. I thought the story that it was trying to tell was pretty good. Even if I don't have an interest in playing Gone Home, a lot of the office at PCGamesN must've liked the game to have included it in this list (unless someone paid them to include it, but I'm not accusing them of anything). The whole thing is just one big opinion piece. If they honestly enjoyed the games they put on this list, that's good enough for me.[/QUOTE] The problem is later on they put "One of the 15 best indie games on PC - PCGamesN" on their steam page.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47491963]The problem is later on they put "One of the 15 best indie games on PC - PCGamesN" on their steam page.[/QUOTE] Oh get over it. Who gives a shit what they said? Some people like it, some people don't.
Gone Home does good atmosphere and I definitely think first person mystery/adventure is a genre that should be explored further, it's just overpriced and it gets WAY too much praise off of, well It has exactly the right atmosphere for a certain kind of person. Lots of nostalgic references to early-mid '90s media, schooling and the like, LGBT-centric plot, Riot Grrl soundtrack, just about to go to bed so I don't want to get too deep into a review here but Basically, I think it struck a very particular chord with exactly the kind of person people on /v/ and the like loathe. Best Walking Sims I've played are Dear Esther and Stanley Parable. Dear Esther is gorgeous with amazing atmosphere if a little pretentious, and Stanley Parable is probably one of the best written games I've ever played. That's one of my main gripes about the Gone Home praise, that it somehow beat out Stanley Parable, which in my opinion was an instant classic and a very important game in general
[QUOTE=chuz;47474872]People seem to judge Gone Home on what it wasn't rather than what it was. It wasn't supposed to have thrilling gameplay, or a Nolanesque plot. What it was was a very human story, told in a unique way. If it didn't click with you, I'm sorry.[/QUOTE] I can understand the plot to be a very human story. However, the plot was something out of a made for TV lesbian romance drama for teenage girls that would've been made back in the 90s.
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