World of Warcraft: The Chronicle Volume 1 is the answer to all your WoW lore prayers - Sensationalist Headlines

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49821904]Iunno, they've really weakened the Horde and made the Alliance out to be the bad guys, with the alliance attacking the peaceful tauren and whatnot who disputed the war in the first place. [editline]26th February 2016[/editline] The garrosh arc just seemed forced. He really did become evil and quickly too, ergo the battle for orgrimmar and whatnot, had both alliance and horde leaders want his head. It made no sense for him to become the new warchief. Thrall has had very little (actual) story development since Warcraft, and I liked how much Thrall wanted to forge an (lol) alliance with the two factions[/QUOTE] It really did make so little sense to put Garrosh as Warchief that even Garrosh himself was saying that he was the worst pick for it.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;49814076]Plot holes are logical inconsistencies in a story, not things being unexplained. For what its worth, a lot of these things have been explained by various sources, some of which might be hard to find. As an example, one of the writers once answered a tweet specifically about how fel and arcane magics work and what their origins are. Regarding your one contradiction, that is alternate universe Archimonde. In the story, Kil'Jaedans plan to corrupt the orcs using the fel blood of mannoroth failed, so archimonde took charge with a more direct strategy.[/QUOTE] you can argue that, but how on earth does Archimonde know about the present-time failure of Draenor if he's from an alternate universe? Why does he care? In the missives he even says that he doesn't give a single care about the Draenei. Dave Kosak once said that the Legion is timeless, but that made even less sense when he mentioned it.

[QUOTE=erkor;49823091]you can argue that, but how on earth does Archimonde know about the present-time failure of Draenor if he's from an alternate universe? Why does he care? In the missives he even says that he doesn't give a single care about the Draenei. Dave Kosak once said that the Legion is timeless, but that made even less sense when he mentioned it.[/QUOTE] Didn't Blizz say that the Burning Legion is a constant in each timeline? Also, Archimonde came to Draenor to ensure Gul Dan would not fail [sp]and he totally did[/sp].

Give us N'zoth or give us death.

[QUOTE=erkor;49823091]you can argue that, but how on earth does Archimonde know about the present-time failure of Draenor if he's from an alternate universe? Why does he care? In the missives he even says that he doesn't give a single care about the Draenei. Dave Kosak once said that the Legion is timeless, but that made even less sense when he mentioned it.[/QUOTE] That is because [sp]the AU is set 30 years behind the MU, and not an actual portal to the past.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;49823129]Didn't Blizz say that the Burning Legion is a constant in each timeline? Also, Archimonde came to Draenor to ensure Gul Dan would not fail [sp]and he totally did[/sp].[/QUOTE] I believe this was retconned in WoD, there are now multiple legions across multiple universes/timelines or something like that.

[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;49823171]I believe this was retconned in WoD, there are now multiple legions across multiple universes/timelines or something like that.[/QUOTE] There is only one Legion since [sp]demons are interdemensional beings, and can only be truly killed if killed within their anchor point, the Twisting Nether[/sp].

[QUOTE=erkor;49797370]the lore is fucked up tho we dont know most of the demons origins(excluding terrorguards, eredar, wrathguards) we dont know how argus looks like we dont know how fel works in detail we dont know how arcane works in detail we dont know how necromancy works we dont know how death knights work we dont know how languages work we dont know about the titans other than they travel around space and colonize planets with creatures we dont know a lot abour draenor various things contradict, i.e. how archimonde returns in wod despite dying in warcraft 3 theres a ton of contradictions, plot holes and more that are hopefully filled with this book[/QUOTE] I can answer some of this. 1). Most demons are from other planets in the twisting nethers, each one is a homeworld that has willingly allied with the legion. 2). We haven't gone to Argus, so no. But the Eredar pre corrupted Man'ari. Man'ari are legion allied Eredar, and Draenei are Light allied Eredar. 3). They're going over magic in this book. 4). They're going over magic in this book. - Pretty sure that most magic is based from the Titans. There is several quest about Laylines in Wrath when dealing with the blue dragon flight. 5). They're going over magic in this book. 6). Second War Deathknights are just Orc Souls bound to human bodies. Third Generation DKs, (playable ones) are just the corrupted souls and bodies of heroes. They still rot and everything. 7). Pretty sure languages work just as they do in real life. 8). They're supposed to be mysterious beings that people know nothing of. They're essentially gods, although that might be changing with the new book, considering that the Olds gods are now space parasites that have been around since the start of time. 9). We know plenty about Draenor. Its the homeworld of the orcs. But before the Orcs controlled the lands, it was the Ogre Empire, and before that it was dealing with the Gronn, and then before the Gronn was the great Colossi. The Draenei dropped out of space and settled Draenor, then the Legion turned the orcs, orcs murdered everyone and took control, invaded Azeroth and the opening of the dark portals caused Draenor to fall into the void. 10). Different timelines, different legions. (This might be changed.) There are still a lot of mistakes, contradictions and retarded ideas, like Med'an and Metzens "I forgot the Eredar lore". [QUOTE=Solo Wing;49813775]This, this entire fucking post. I imagined someone like Garrosh doing some great things with the horde since he had Thrall as an example and great advisors ready and willing to aid him. Within ONE expansion he had every leader in the alliance and horde discussing how they were going to end him. That being said, his scene with Thrall at the end of the last questline in Warlords gave me a brand new respect for the Hellscream name. And garrosh's VA.[/QUOTE] Because everyone was tried of Metzen, I mean Thrall. Seriously, when Metzen shaved his head and got his earrings. Thrall got the same treatment. Thrall is still the only Orc that has eyebrows.

[QUOTE=Fangz;49823184]There is only one Legion since [sp]demons are interdemensional beings, and can only be truly killed if killed within their anchor point, the Twisting Nether[/sp].[/QUOTE] So it IS the same case as with Ragnaros. Just exchange firelands with twisting nether.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;49823360]So it IS the same case as with Ragnaros. Just exchange firelands with twisting nether.[/QUOTE] Elemental Lords are demi-gods, they can be permanently killed if it happens in their domain. IE, Ragnaros and Al'akir.

[QUOTE=Solo Wing;49823129]Didn't Blizz say that the Burning Legion is a constant in each timeline? Also, Archimonde came to Draenor to ensure Gul Dan would not fail [sp]and he totally did[/sp].[/QUOTE] Like I just said, Dave Kosak said that in an interview. If that was the case, why doesn't Mannoroth just launch a full-scale invasion similar to a Blitzkrieg? Why attempt a tactic that in the end failed anyways? Mannoroth is a cunning general of the Burning Legion. I'm sure trial and error isn't part of his "How to take over a planet" routine. On top of that, why doesn't Archimonde or whoever just draw a rune in the sand and destroy the entire planet? They did it on Fanlin'Deskor, before Dalaran, and then as well.

[QUOTE=erkor;49823399]Like I just said, Dave Kosak said that in an interview. If that was the case, why doesn't Mannoroth just launch a full-scale invasion similar to a Blitzkrieg? Why attempt a tactic that in the end failed anyways? Mannoroth is a cunning general of the Burning Legion. I'm sure trial and error isn't part of his "How to take over a planet" routine. On top of that, why doesn't Archimonde or whoever just draw a rune in the sand and destroy the entire planet? They did it on Fanlin'Deskor, before Dalaran, and then as well.[/QUOTE] Because that makes far too much sense and this is a fantasy MMO.