Half-Life 3 is "being worked on" and Left 4 Dead 3 "looks great", says Counter-Strike creator
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[QUOTE=nightlord;44903375]I don't think it will be called Episode 3, but it makes less sense to call it Half life 3 when it is still part of the Half Life 2 story.[/QUOTE]
It makes enough sense. It's a direct sequel that's not an episode implying it's a full game.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44903489]It makes enough sense. It's a direct sequel that's not an episode implying it's a full game.[/QUOTE]
Surely a direct sequel to Episode 2 should be called Episode 3?
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And just because it's called Episode 3 doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be the same length as Episode 1 or 2. It could be of any length.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;44903489]It makes enough sense. It's a direct sequel that's not an episode implying it's a full game.[/QUOTE]
It's got nothing to do with whether it's a full game or not. It's part of the Half life 2 story, Half life 3 will be used for a completely new story arc. That's how Valve have named all the other Half life games so far.
As i said earlier, it would be like calling one of the Half life 1 expansions Half life 2, just because they are the next game in the series. It doesn't make sense because they are an expansion of the Half life 1 story.
[QUOTE=Coffee;44903161]But Breen is dead in Half Life so that doesn't matter anyway?[/QUOTE]
There is a lot of foreshadowing that points to Breen actually getting that promised host body(Little baby advisor body) at the end of HL2 and the start of EP1(scene in the advisor pod room) You could go as far to say he was the one you find in the Barn and the one at the Silo and the one that sucks out Elis goods.
Whether this is the case any more or not due to the VA death, or was ever the case at all, I dont know, but it seems like the most plausible, I mean the EP1 pod room is just straight up in your face foreshadowing, there would be no reason to have the entire HL2 Breen+Advisor talk shown again only for Breen to be talking about getting and accepting a new Host Body, to then be attacked by young incubating advisor 10 seconds afterwards.
[QUOTE=nightlord;44903645]It's got nothing to do with whether it's a full game or not. It's part of the Half life 2 story, Half life 3 will be used for a completely new story arc. That's how Valve have named all the other Half life games so far.
As i said earlier, it would be like calling one of the Half life 1 expansions Half life 2, just because they are the next game in the series. It doesn't make sense because they are an expansion of the Half life 1 story.[/QUOTE]
Theres no real reason that couldnt change.
Like the dude said, its probably not the best for marketing.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;44903346]There's that host body idea. With that, they could easily get away with a new VA.[/QUOTE]
Man, if Valve pulled some asspull like that I'd be so disappointed.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;44906847]Theres no real reason that couldnt change.
Like the dude said, its probably not the best for marketing.[/QUOTE]
It would be mad confusing though. It's the third part of a three part story and to name it Half-Life 3 would imply it is its own full-fledged sequel to the Half-Life 2 story.
Half-Life 1 and 2 start off independently, Half-Life 3 starts off at a cliffhanger of Episode 2. That would be way more confusing. Calling it Half-Life 3 when it's really Half-Life 2: Episode Three just because marketing is sort of stupid
Well, try and think how the average joe consumer would think, would you rather buy an "episode" or a full sequel? I know its stupid but thats something you'd have to think about.
imagine all the tears if HL3 turns into another DNF
[QUOTE=AaronM202;44907944]Well, try and think how the average joe consumer would think, would you rather buy an "episode" or a full sequel? I know its stupid but thats something you'd have to think about.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Valve need to be concerned about the average joe consumer, regardless of what people say, millions of gamers will buy Episode 3 the day it comes out, Valve do not need to worry about that.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;44907944]Well, try and think how the average joe consumer would think, would you rather buy an "episode" or a full sequel? I know its stupid but thats something you'd have to think about.[/QUOTE]
If they don't know anything at all about Half life, they aren't going to know that the "episodes" before this weren't full-length games. It's not like they are going to base their purchase of the game on just it's name, either.
Oh bollocks, how many times are they going to post this on here.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;44907970]imagine all the tears if HL3 turns into another DNF[/QUOTE]
Wont happen with valve, not trying to sound like im fawning over them, but they have clearly demonstrated they know the industry like the back of their hands, and im fairly confident that they will deliver a good product yet again.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;44908077]Wont happen with valve, not trying to sound like im fawning over them, but they have clearly demonstrated they know the industry like the back of their hands, and im fairly confident that they will deliver a good product yet again.[/QUOTE]
There's no argument that Valve puts in a great amount of detail in their works, given the time investment. It's the mindset that the longer the game is in development, the greater it will be, that is prevalent in most minds today that could bite them pretty hard. The 9 year development gap between TF1 and TF2 showed massive change and contained its own elements that made it unique from other games, sans the update frenzy. And it was still pretty good for a game that took 9 years to throw out. However, that was back when Valve was less about software and hardware and more on games. Now they're bigger, massive fucking budget thanks for hitting a gold mine with hats and accessories for their games, looking to expand into various other departments. So it only piles on to the expectation that HL3/HL2:Ep 3 (listing both as some people prefer one over the other) will be a god among games, a second coming. Whether or not it turns out to be amazing is left to Valve. While there are people who just stopped caring, there is still the rapid fanbase with a bigger population. Valve delivers good stuff, but as time rises, so does expectations. Pretty sure no one wants another DNF.
EP3/HL3 wont be DNF 2.
Everything about DNF's development was just this giant clusterfuck that i cant possibly see happening at a place like Valve, mostly because of George Broussard from everything ive read.
[QUOTE=ironman17;44886234]What really matters to me is what kind of gameplay renovations they'd make for HL3. It's been a long time, so hopefully the HEV suit will have been upgraded a fair bit. Also, if Gordon still runs into resistance troops, perhaps the whole "squad control" mechanic from the HL2 "Trilogy" will be overhauled and more in-depth thanks to a command module.
When you've been keeping folks hanging for so long, you'd probably want the game to be as awesome as it can be.[/QUOTE]
I always figured we'd have an entirely new setting. Like how HL1 was absolutely different than HL2.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;44910476]A good product perhaps, but it will still be a disappointment in many eyes.
I mean, the hype for HL/EP3 is too rediculous to live up to.[/QUOTE]
Id accept something on par with portal 2, just with twice the length and id be content.
And yes there are alot of people who need to need to temper their luxury impulse with a tiny bit of realism.
[QUOTE=Masterofstars;44911101]I always figured we'd have an entirely new setting. Like how HL1 was absolutely different than HL2.[/QUOTE]
I just want them to finish the next HL game so they could move on to another arc which would give them more freedom to do what they want with the story. And because it would be a different story maybe it wouldn't take them so long to finish it.
I hope hl3 won't be a flop I know Portal 2 wasn't and it was very good successor to P1 but what bout hl could they add something that can make it even better, (other than improved graphics ofc) co-op mode to make it even better?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;44911731]i hope hl3 is a minimalistic avant garde 2d sidescrolling platformer without enemies or a fail state
also, it needs to have a 24 fps cap and only run on nvidia cards[/QUOTE]
Instead, how about some new IP? Completely separate from the HL universe. People keep rolling back n forward to and from L4D and HL when I think a new IP would be their best bet.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;44910476]A good product perhaps, but it will still be a disappointment in many eyes.
I mean, the hype for HL/EP3 is too rediculous to live up to.[/QUOTE]
What hype.
The hype the fans caused for themselves? Not Valve. Yes, there was a cliffhanger, but i havent seen any hyping from them since.
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[QUOTE=dot.rich;44914691]Instead, how about some new IP? Completely separate from the HL universe. People keep rolling back n forward to and from L4D and HL when I think a new IP would be their best bet.[/QUOTE]
I wanna see Prospero.
All the hype is fan made, Valve hasn't given any fucking info on HL3 ever aside from the TWO concept art from fucking 2007 which probably mean fuck all at this point and time. Hell I swear I have seen Gaben say multiple times they dont wanna talk about HL3/EP3 because they dont wanna hype fans and then disappoint them if news changes or shit.
Regardless of the hype, the only people to be disappointed are the people that think its the next messiah, and its entirely there fault, hell im probably a bigger fan than most of those types of people, because I can at least know what to expect. Its gonna be an extremely high quality FPS and Half life.
Plus I doubt Valve would fuck up the series that put them on the map, Half Life is the one series Valve does that they know what they are doing, I trust them more with it than Valve with Dota 2 or CS:GO and L4D3
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