Invisible water! Yay! [Not Leak Related]

So i’ve been working on a map for a while. Essentially its a huge ship that sits in water up to a certian level.

Considering the ship isn’t a box, it took quite liberal applications of the cutting tool in order to shape a box of water into the perfect shape for the ship. Meaning i have quite intricate water brushes surrounding the three corners of the ship and the sides.

That’s not my problem (as i managed to do those just fine)

The problem, is that the lovely centerpiece of water that was left inside the ship when i was finished cutting. The inner piece was exactly the size of the inside of the ship. So i deleted it to leave the outer water brushes correctly encasing the ship while the inside was dry.

Now for players this is fine, it seems to be a living breathable area were no water exists whatsoever.

But for props and items its a complete other story! Physics props sink or float depending on the material type to the exact height of were the original box of water is. Items such as SMG ammo also float along with crates and debris.

Now as you can imagine for a cargohold full of crates… them all floating on the ceiling completely ruins the point of having a cargohold.

Do you think this is a glitch in hammer? It seemed to happen to a much lesser extent on a previous version of the map (done by someone else). Although it was still noticeable in some areas.

-Tested deleting the brushes encasing the ship. Didn’t work

-Tested Moving the map 1000 Units upwards to move the “invisible water” under the map. Didn’t work

-Attempted copy/pasting the entire map into a new empty map. But all that happened was it saved an empty map?

-No leaks on my map, no pointfile generated either.

-You don’t hear a water sound when in the cargo hold, which i’ve seen with a similar glitch.

Maybe its a leak. (oh wait.)

On a serious note:
Try posting the compile log.

Compile log here!



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** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\sourcesdk\bin\ep1\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\half-life 2\hl2" "C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Dec 11 2006)
2 threads
materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\half-life 2\hl2\materials
Loading C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1410.3, -161.7)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1387.9, -164.4)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1406.1, -163.4)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (245.6, 1420.0, -159.6)
Leaf 0 contents: 
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1375.8, -163.8)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (247.5, 1024.0, -161.3)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (241.0, 1421.4, -164.9)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (241.0, 1481.7, -161.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 9357: 

*** Suppressing further FindPortalSide errors.... ***
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 28 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.prt...done (1)
error: material NATURE/WATER_DX70_BENEATH doesn't have a $bottommaterial
error: material NATURE/WATER_DX70_BENEATH doesn't have a $bottommaterial
error: material NATURE/WATER_DX70_BENEATH doesn't have a $bottommaterial
Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
skybox/sky_day01_09*.vmt
Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.

No such variable "$hdrbasetexture" for material "skybox/sky_day01_09rt"
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_day01_09 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (688469 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 1178 texinfos to 847
Reduced 47 texdatas to 39 (1693 bytes to 1223)
Writing C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp
10 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\sourcesdk\bin\ep1\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\half-life 2\hl2" -fast "C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Nov  8 2007)
fastvis = true
2 threads
reading c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp
reading c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.prt
1878 portalclusters
6684 numportals
BasePortalVis:       0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (19)
WARNING: Cluster portals saw into cluster
WARNING: Cluster portals saw into cluster
Optimized: 209043 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 2556875
Average clusters visible: 1361
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 1846
visdatasize:865619  compressed from 901440
writing c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp
20 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\sourcesdk\bin\ep1\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters:  -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\half-life 2\hl2" -noextra "C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (Nov  8 2007)
----- Radiosity Simulator ----
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[45 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp
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35319 patches after subdivision
3 direct lights
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transfers 4426053, max 1044
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Ready to Finish

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==== Total Win32 BSP file data space used: 5089431 bytes ====

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Writing c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp
1 minute, 28 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp" "c:\program files\steam\SteamApps\SourceMods\zombie_master\maps\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_60.bsp"
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Mind you, its done on fast Vrad/Vvis because i doubt those affect water too much.

Also full of errors, but this map is really quite troublesome so ill get around to fixing them later.

(If you see anything you know how to easily fix, say something lol)

–snip-- too large.
Use interlopers error checker, follow solutions

cracks knuckles

it’s a leak, in hammer, click map then click Load pointfile, that will create a red line in hammer showing where the Ent bled out, also, where you are cutting the water along the ship (where the ship and water meet) should all be nodrawed.

This will fix your problem.

Rated informative

It just keeps saying i can’t find some .lin file or whatever, obviously hammer is broken and simply isn’t realizing that its leaking right? I guess i could always draw my own red line everywhere and see what happens, or find the leak manually i guess…

Oh wait.

Run it through Interlopers error checker and fix up the problems with the map.

Also, don’t use a dx70 texture for the water, it looks like shit.

Got invalid brushes, Confusing brushes, and a skybox that doesn’t work.

Well i sorta knew all that already. As i said this map is pretty much a PAIN. But im making it work ^.^

The Dx70 was actually water that was below another water brush… sort of a “Beneath” water brush. The other beneath water textures seem to draw this white stuff all over hammer, its terrible. I was using this as a placeholder till i figured out what was what. I really just needed a water brush with nodraw on it.

Nothing here about invisible water though…

Edit Oh hey, it looks like those “Beneath” water textures im not supposed to use. Period… that makes sense as to why they draw white stuff all over hammer.

Water brushes will block leaks from being detected by the compile tools, though the map will still leak. Delete all water brushes and compile the map again and it should make a point file.

Oh hey i like that response, you may have possibly solved my problem by actually TELLING me what could be making a leak.

-Testing now (ill be very intrested to know how my square box that i havent moved since i made the map is leaking o-0)

“Zm_[fcfc]_ship_v7_Alpha_60.lin
File not found
Check the file name and try again”

Oh hey! no leaks…

So now that we 100% established that possibly i understand the concept of putting the plug in the bathtub’s drain before the water all runs out… what next?

[editline]06:03AM[/editline]

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1360/noleakshere.png http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/noleakshere.png/1/w1280.png

Ok now that i’ve drawn a giant nodraw box around my map can we get this notion out of our heads that its a leak? Hell i even drew a nodraw box around HAMMER.

If you have to resort to that, your map isn’t worth saving. You should NEVER do that under any circumstances.

findportalside: couldn’t find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1410.3, -161.7)

Is that brush a func_detail cause that can rape you map anally.

You have some solid that’s fucked up, go to brush 9357 and delete it

It was simply to prove the map didn’t have a leak in it. Honestly the thread isn’t even related to the leak invisible water, its more like water that doesn’t exist but still does.

This water DOES not exist in hammer. I do not wish for it to stay and there is no leak making it invisible. Leaks don’t effect what i see in hammer, and what i see in hammer consists of no water existing in the area i wish it not to exist in.

I want this water gone, I highly doubt that a leak will make random props float for no reason.

Yeah i think i fixed it actually while i was waiting for a response, it no longer exists

Current Compile is





materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps	okidoki\half-life 2\hl2\materials
Loading C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_63.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (255.0, 1108.8, -162.5)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_GRATE CONTENTS_TRANSLUCENT 
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (247.5, 1024.0, -161.3)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (250.2, 1024.0, -168.2)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1096.7, -171.8)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (243.0, 1286.0, -165.7)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (239.0, 1175.7, -177.3)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
Leaf 1 contents: 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (241.0, 1164.6, -173.3)
Leaf 0 contents: 
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 


FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (241.0, 1199.2, -171.9)
Leaf 0 contents: 
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID 
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID 
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID 
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID 
Candidate brush IDs: Brush 114492: 

*** Suppressing further FindPortalSide errors.... ***
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FixTjuncs...
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WriteBSP...
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writing C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_63.prt...done (0)
Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox materials:
skybox/sky_day03_06*.vmt
Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.

No such variable "$hdrbasetexture" for material "skybox/sky_day03_06rt"
Can't load skybox file skybox/sky_day03_06 to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
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Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (690681 bytes)
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Water found with no water_lod_control entity, creating a default one.
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 1177 texinfos to 846
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Writing C:\Users\Tokidoki\Desktop\More dots!\Tools\Hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_63.bsp
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2 threads
reading c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_63.bsp
reading c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_63.prt
1882 portalclusters
6755 numportals
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10WARNING: Cluster portals saw into cluster
WARNING: Cluster portals saw into cluster
Optimized: 201968 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 2585788
Average clusters visible: 1373
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 1850
visdatasize:875070  compressed from 903360
writing c:\users	okidoki\desktop\more dots!	ools\hammer\Zm_[fcfc]_Ship_v7_Alpha_63.bsp
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Keep deleting the brushes until you win(aka brush 114492)

oh i will, but ill never win.

I made the hull of the ship with 2 blocks and over 100 clips in different places. Upon making them hollow they were error ridden deathtraps. Honestly you should have seen the first compile log!

Edit Problem solved! or sort of!

The original piece i took out of the hull still existed (because i had moved it way up to the top of the map and later planned to use it as water to fill the hull when the ship sank.

It seems deleting this deleted the phantom water… even though it was about 10,000 units off to the side.

Why didn’t you just make a hole in the side of the ship and use one big water brush that flooded the lower decks?

because it’s a zombie master map, and that sort of stuff is usually controlled by an event.