(For @Kenajcrap as they’ve reached the posting limit)
(whoops, wrong ping, sorry eris!)
Garry’s spoken about this already over on knockout
Man you guys fucking hate me eh… I want to clear a few things up.
Our forums started off as a forum for Garry’s Mod. They got quite large because of that. We made general sections and people joined for Garry’s Mod and drifted into the general forums. This is how our community grew.
People often talk shit about me, saying I was an asshole because I banned people so much. I seriously think was part of the appeal to people too. Other forums at the time were that desperate for members that they treated them like eggs. Soft warnings, Medium warning, Hard warnings. We just banned people for a while. That was the punishment. As much as people talk shit about it now, like it was a power trip, it was why our forum wasn’t as full of idiot posts as most forums of the time. People were scared to post - which meant that they put thought into it. I’m not saying it was the right way to go about things now - but it was then.
The problem was that over the last 5 or so years I didn’t have time for the forums. I didn’t post in them, I didn’t read them, I didn’t visit them. I tried a bunch of times to convert the forums to something I could be interested in, and it pretty much always met résistance and I lost confidence in it, and ultimately never made it work.
So then the idea of moving the community to here came about. A community run forum, where the community could look after itself. It could grow in any direction it wanted without me being any kind of bottleneck. I wouldn’t have the guilt of neglecting it anymore. I wouldn’t have the guilt of killing the community, it’d just be transplanted into another place.
One of my biggest regrets is not preserving an archive of the old threads and posts. We couldn’t hand them over to you guys because of the data protection laws. Keeping them around would mean we’d need to code and maintain a whole mechanism to delete threads and posts upon user requests. This meant that it couldn’t be a static site, we’d need to maintain a database copy somehow. That means running a database with everything in - which is pretty much akin to running the forum anyway. In retrospect it doesn’t seem like that much of an issue - but at the time it seemed like more trouble than it’s worth. But like I say, I wish I’d made other logical decisions around that now instead of focusing on the legalities.
So yes, I’ve started looking at forums for our games again. I’m avoiding having general forums in the hope that when people get bored of the games they just leave the forums. I’m not coding it myself, I’m going for the east option of using discourse - so it’s not going to have all the cool custom stuff KO has.
I know a lot of this is already known and probably changes nothing, but I felt like you all deserve an explanation anyway.