this post really threw me off guard, I feel like it's a conspiracy post or something. Is this a serious post?
He doesn't "just talk" to people though, he provides a platform and only offers fairly softball opposition to the things they say. I don't hate Joe Rogan and I'm not entirely sure what his motivations are beyond simply providing entertainment but I think it's massively shortsighted to say that you aren't allowed to judge someones character based on who they provide a platform to and, more critically, how they go about handling that platform. I'm not really sure what the Yang snipe was supposed to accomplish other than to reinforce Wafflrmonsters main point.
Can't see how you are so confident that Alex Jones doesn't influence people in alt-right/traditional right circles. It's not like you have to go far to find these types of people praising him, it's on the front page of /pol/, t_d, and prominent right-wing twitter feeds. This idea that Joe Rogan is just interviewing some clown for harmless entertainment is ignorant at best, deliberately misleading and disingenuous at worst.
You very clearly misunderstand Joe's entire purpose for having this show.
The -only- reason it exists, at least in his words, is because he likes to learn. He wants to see as many viewpoints as possible and give people a chance to say what they think without the pressures of proper media interviews with leading questions, bias, all that kind of shit.
This isn't some CNN debate show, this is a dude inviting his long time friend on to talk about what's been going on in his head. It's good content, just like the last 2 times Alex was on the show.
That being said, I'm sick and fucking tired of Eddie Bravo. I get him and Joe are like, -best- friends, but he just always seems like he's weaning off of a 7 day adderall binge whenever i hear him talk.
"what DOESN'T make alex jones alt-right" would be an easier question to answer
i mean, are you serious? jones is all in on soros conspiracies and white genocide and basically every alt-right talking point there is
Instead of creating a response you would inevitably refuse to accept as a sufficient answer I'll just ask you to read my post again and point out the part where I said Alex Jones is altright, which I'm pretty sure is a claim I never made.
Surely you can see why "he likes to learn" is a bit of ridiculous defense, right? He Joe Rogan just wanted to learn and see as many viewpoints as possible without engaging with who is he listening to he could be a passive observer. I have no doubt that's how he really feels so I'm not saying you are wrong, but clearly the entertainment aspect is a big part of this. You simply can't have something called a show unless the objective is to entertain (or inform) other people. I think I am being immensely charitable, and correct, when I say that at least one of the driving factors for why he does the things he does is to provide entertainment.
I seriously doubt Joe Rogan has an agenda. I just think he's very fond of weird points of view and conspiracies. And with the alt-right making up a major part of the conspiracy community, combined with Rogan's often non-confrontational interview style, his fanbase (READ: not EVERY fan) has slanted that way, perhaps more than he realizes.
Yes, I get that he invites people like Russell Brand and acts non-confrontational towards them, too. Joe is not a master political manipulator for the right, as far as I'm concerned. All I'm saying is that the subculture surrounding his podcast leans further right than some people would care to admit, either because they don't see it, and watch it purely because of the bizarre antics, or because they favor those politics, but use the fact Joe isn't overtly partisan to prevent being criticized for it
I think Joe Rogan is a decent enough host when the topics and guests aren't that political or serious, but whenever he brings on guests to talk about more serious stuff I always get the feeling that Joe doesn't know the topics enough and isn't smart enough to confront and have a critical discussion.
So, you are telling me, right, that people that are already alt-right are loving this, already is the keyword. Cool, its a echo-chamber. It doesn't fucking increase their numbers, it doesn't make their idea seem appealing. If anything, this makes them seem more crazy. I watched all of this. Alex Jones is fucking crazy. 99% of people that aren't alt-right already will see that watching this.
The idea that someone watches a crazy man rant and rave all over the place that is hard to follow will somehow harm the world is absurd.
Alex Jones is an extreme example though, there's a lot of more subtle people like Jordan Peterson for example.
Yeah, But I am talking about actual crazy. Not Jordan Peterson's double talk. Alex Jones. I am not saying people can't be convinced by ideas that sound great when you don't know shit, and aren't told everything.
This is the reason I listen to the podcast though, and the reason it exists I think. There's a lot of different interesting guests usually, and they can just shoot the shit.
This podcast was insane but incredibly hilarious in my eyes to be honest
Holy fuck, don't be friends with cancerously shit people! is that so fucking hard? it's like when Penn Gilette is on his podcast, wanking off clearly hateful, spiteful fucking people because "they're libertarian". Fucking hell, we've all been twelve once. Holy fucking shit. He's a fucking evil piece of shit no matter where you stand on inventing genders and all that other shit. There's nothing to be gained from giving this snake-oil salesman any kind of air-time and i have to wonder about Joe Rogan's mental facilities for ever deciding this is what to do.
"Discussed in the video you didn' watch" Holy fuck, kid. eat a fucking dick!
What are you unsure about?
It's funny how once you mention a non-PC person here on Facepunch,there's always going to be that one fucking person who says "Alt right amirite?"
Anyways,back on topic. Alex finally admitted to who he is and now I can rest easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufOgTllmr1E
Holy shit I audibly gasped reading the last part of this
dude are you okay
like, you can disagree with people and not hate them, you get that right?
its amazing to think that your argument is that the people who you disagree with dont deserve the right to have friends, and that those friends aren't allowed as private citizens to engage with said people publicly.
Clearly you have personal opinions about these people, which leads me to think that odds are you're on the more left end of the spectrum (i'm not calling you a libtard here btw), which means you must have some understanding of the fundamental concept of freedom of speech, correct?
You an disagree with bad people and not hate them. Absolutely. Thing is. My man Al here. He's certifiably insane and earning money off of people dying. There's nothing to defend or be friends with here.
merge got kilt by @Sam lol
He'd be in an institution anywhere else in the west. That's what it has to do with America "as a whole."
i don't think alex jones is profiting off of anyone dying aside from covering stories in which people died?
I'm probably as libtard as they get without inventing genders and thinking it solves anything. I'm from fucking Denmark. We respect the idea that mentally insane people exist and this broseph here, he's one of them. To the point of acting out insane ideas and causing distress to people trying to live their lives. I don't know how dense you are, but i'm sensing a lack of any rational thinking if you think this is down to "people who do wront don't deserve friends!" He's catagorically evil if there ever was such a fucking thing. I don't know how it's at all controversial to you that i question why Joe Rogan, a pretentious libertarian, could be friends with an obviously abusiive insane person leaning who is leeaning and leeching off of the far right, because they exist on letting bigoted people bigot.
I don't know why this is rocket science to you or why you think you have to play the philosophical neutral here, but it's not exactly a purely "leftist" idea that the guy is insane and wishes ill things for a lot of people who did him no wrong but exist and have their children get shot. Fuck right off dude.
I don't think he is, Peterson consistently dips more than just his toes into extreme territory, but he's more along the lines of "traditional right" and "anti-SJW skeptic" than anything else. Jordan Peterson is a total partisan hack if you ask me, in it for the money, ego, and propaganda, but he's no Alex Jones, and I'm not comfortable just throwing the "alt-right" label onto him
Well sure but I don't think you're making a good counter-point to Raidyrs post because few people on the podcast are actually crazy like Alex Jones. I think people like Jordan Peterson are much more likely to nudge people who aren't already there in the direction of the alt right wether intentionally or not.
No one with any brain cells is going to agree with most of the shit Jones says, and all his appearance on podcasts like this does is reinforce people's negative opinion of him. His insanity isn't going to convert anyone who is truly centrist. In my opinion it's interesting to listen to him outside of his own show; while still pretty extreme, he sounds a lot more moderate to me on Rogan's podcast than on infowars. Everyone deserves a platform to defend themselves and their ideas, and if Rogan wants to talk to him and provide that platform, so be it. Can't really fault his podcast for that.
I feel like we're a couple years off Jones living under a bridge yelling at cats anyway
Alex jones believes the moon landing was real. so is the ISS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ku4zIJeSs
almost there
wait, what do you mean by that. Do you believe the moon landing is fake?
I can't tell if your serious or joking, but I believe we went to the moon and the earth is round... just like alex jones.
Alex Jones is just a late game Bloodborne character and is sitting on like 99 insight.
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